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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: TonyR on May 19, 2011, 08:11:47 PM
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I'm planning a long trip to Yellowstone. Would you say the best seat for the job would be a Russell Day Long?
Are they water proof? I noticed they sell covers???
Also, I have 32" inseam, would that seat put me up any higher?
Thanks
Tony
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I would never put something that ugly, on a motorcycle that I own. I know they have a reputation of being comfy, but they are hideous in my eyes. I love my Baldwin saddle, it is comfy and looks good while doing so.
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I have to agree with you, they are ugly. Somehow the wifey doesn't seem to care much about that. She wants comfy :)
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I would never put something that ugly, on a motorcycle that I own. I know they have a reputation of being comfy, but they are hideous in my eyes.
Sorry Tony, but I agree with the Joker...
:doublepuke:
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They might be ugly but do you have eyes in your butt?? ;) They are custom made to your size so if they put you up higher it would only be a little.
When your traveling you need all the comfort you can get, nothing makes a trip better than a good seat. I have a Baldwin but I think a Russell would be better for long rides.
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They might be ugly but do you have eyes in your butt?? ;) They are custom made to your size so if they put you up higher it would only be a little.
When your traveling you need all the comfort you can get, nothing makes a trip better than a good seat. I have a Baldwin but I think a Russell would be better for long rides.
I know that form is supposed to follow function..........but damn, I don't think I could look at that.
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Since my butt doesn't have eyes ;) I got the RD, I had one on my C10's also. Best seat I have found to be able to ride all day long without ass burn. I tried a Rick Mayer on my SV1ks, it was worse than the stock seat.
I think it is pretty damn good looking seat myself. Not waterproof, but I did get the cover for it.
(http://www.pbase.com/cognosticator/image/124496796/medium.jpg)
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Since my butt doesn't have eyes ;) I got the RD, I had one on my C10's also. Best seat I have found to be able to ride all day long without ass burn. I tried a Rick Mayer on my SV1ks, it was worse than the stock seat.
I think it is pretty damn good looking seat myself. Not waterproof, but I did get the cover for it.
The cover is to hide it....
:rotflmao:
j/k
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The cover is to hide it....
:rotflmao:
j/k
No you aren't ;)
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They have 2 seats now, butt... I do love my ugly Russell... fits my ugly butt. 8)
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What I would like is a full size jpeg of your avatar....Now that looks nice!
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Most agree the Russell seats are ugly but very comfortable. Seems to me the choice is are you going to be spending more time looking at it or sitting on it? In two weeks I'm going from NJ to UT, and I know my eyes will be happy looking at the scenery and my butt will be happy in the Russell saddle.
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1218 mi in 18hrs 23min my ars has eyes for a day long.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii61/stavee/CIMG0004.jpg)
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Russell makes the seat to fit you. They won't make it higher than the stock seat if you tell them not to. I am going to have a Russell seat made and installed sometime this year and I will not want it higher than the stock seat; like you my inseam is 32 and I am comfortable with the existing seat height.
I have had a Russell on my Goldwing for 4 years and love it. They did not sell/give me a cover. They just told me not to let the seat get wet to where water sits on it. Sometimes I throw a towel over the seat if it is raining. It still looks like new.
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What I would like is a full size jpeg of your avatar....Now that looks nice!
Are you talking about my avatar or cognosticator?
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Are you talking about my avatar or cognosticator?
They both look good, but Cogs is better!
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They both look good, but Cogs is better!
That may be... but Cogs is probably someone he'll never touch, and mine is mine. She is real :-)
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That may be... but Cogs is probably someone he'll never touch, and mine is mine. She is real :-)
Excuse me!!!!!!!!!!! That is my daughter you are talking about >:(
:P J/K, I did try to touch her after the pic, that is why there is a restraining order for me in Tallahassee ??? ;D
Well, my wife is watching now, so just google "fsu cleavage" and click on images and scroll down, you will find her ;)
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For hot weather I prefer Bead Rider beaded seat, it lets air circulate under your butt thus alleviating Monkey Butt. For cooler weather the Air Hawk works better for me and I don't end up with a frost bitten arse.
Both of these raise you abt 1/2 inch from the seat.
Fred
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For hot weather I prefer Bead Rider beaded seat, it lets air circulate under your butt thus alleviating Monkey Butt. For cooler weather the Air Hawk works better for me and I don't end up with a frost bitten arse.
Both of these raise you abt 1/2 inch from the seat.
Fred
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(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/ginormous-monkey-butt-20161-1240326062-6.jpg)
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Excuse me!!!!!!!!!!! That is my daughter you are talking about >:(
:P J/K, I did try to touch her after the pic, that is why there is a restraining order for me in Tallahassee ??? ;D
Well, my wife is watching now, so just google "fsu cleavage" and click on images and scroll down, you will find her ;)
I tried that and when I found similar images, my virus protection went nuts. Boo
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I tried that and when I found similar images, my virus protection went nuts. Boo
(http://apudgeisasandwich.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/fsu3.jpg?w=300&h=300)
(http://media.onsugar.com/files/2011/04/15/5/1572/15721474/81/fsu.jpg)
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:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
Thank you Cog!! :thumbs: :popcorn:
Is it just me or is anyone else craving melon now... :P
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:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
Thank you Cog!! :thumbs: :popcorn:
Is it just me or is anyone else craving melon now... :P
Cleanup on aisle 5!!!!
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I just got Russel day long mounted on a Sargent seat pan... At first I wasn't sure I was going to like it, but after a 700 mile weekend and a poker run this weekend, I like it just fine. Not hot spots, not tired butt, just comfortable riding no matter how long in the saddle....
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I just got Russel day long mounted on a Sargent seat pan... At first I wasn't sure I was going to like it, but after a 700 mile weekend and a poker run this weekend, I like it just fine. Not hot spots, not tired butt, just comfortable riding no matter how long in the saddle....
I gotta say that is one unattractive seat but after an overnight 600 miler I would have paid good money for it.
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I gotta say that is one unattractive seat but after an overnight 600 miler I would have paid good money for it.
Gotta agree about the looks. Forgetting about the shape of it, the material looks cheap, like poorly-attached vinyl. And it looks like it takes the "sport" right out of a Sport Tourer, because how can you hang off the side when it has those big sidewalls?
OTOH, I have a very nice, expensive Baldwin saddle that I have to get off every 100 miles or so, even if only for a few minutes, or risk Numb Ass Syndrome. 8)
In a couple of weeks I'm making a full-tilt run from Boston to Chapel Hill....it'll be interesting to see how my 57-year-old hiney will hold up. But from there I'm on to The Dragon and the Skyways, and I know I'll be digging my Baldwin then.
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Y'all must have zoom generous posteriors to require that catches mitt.
Just sayin... ???
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I am researching the AirHawk at the present time. There is no way that I will travel more than 100 miles again on the stocker, modified or not.
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Y'all must have zoom generous posteriors to require that catches mitt.
Just sayin... ???
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/confused1.gif) (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif) Even a google search didn't pull that one up...
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zoom generous posteriors
Ipad spell checker works in mysterious ways...
Supposed to be "some", but I believe "zoom" may be more appropriate. :o
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It's obviously just personal preference, but I was able to fix my stock seat with some reshaping and easily handled a 1067 mi day. Others have used Spencer's work and while I haven't tried it I can say he uses the same material (Supracore) that we are incorporating into the Navy and Marine Corps ejection seat cushions for high mission time endurance.
I narrowed and leveled the nose of the seat, flattened the main seating area so I could slide approx 5-6" forward and back, and lowered the "cliff" separating drivers area from passenger. I use that to sit most of the way back on the passenger area to straighten my legs for a few miles. I am going to add some smoothing foam, fine tune one side, and use a HTMoto cover, but you get the idea. The stock cover stretched just fine even though I ended up removing about 1" in height. With the narrowed nose there is less pressure on the femoral artery, I can move side to side easier, and have better footing at a stop (even though my inseam is 34" I still felt uncomfortable putting both feet down before the reshaping).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/mcintoshms/bob/PB250126.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/mcintoshms/bob/PB250124.jpg)
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Y'all must have zoom generous posteriors to require that catches mitt.
Just sayin... ???
Not really, I've got a 34" waist...
The wings support your thighs, taking a lot of pressure off your posterior...
I know the seat isn't too pretty, but nobody can see it when I'm sitting on it. So far I'm very pleased with the comfort level. Have had two 400 mile days, and one day with low miles but with 5 hours in the saddle without any complaints...
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I have a Russell (built for me) and I can't get more than about three hours out of it before it gets uncomfortable. The stock saddle takes me nearly that far although the discomfort is much worse and is accumulative; a short rest and getting back on the Russell is like starting a new day. I also have a Corbin and cannot ride on that for 45 minutes before screaming 'Uncle' and then I am done for the day. What I have ended up with though is the Corbin with a pair (one for me, one for my wife) of Airhawks on top of it. All day comfort and even after 22+ hours continuous (excluding food, fuel and rest room stops of course) it is still comfortable.
A stock Russell will raise the seating position about 1 1/2" because of the spring construction built on a stock saddle pan. Russell now makes a 'sport' saddle that does not have the internal springs and is made especially for people who do not want to be any higher than necessary. Russell themselves recommends their standard saddle for best comfort though.
The vinyl or leather on a Russell is waterproof but the sewn seams will leak. Because the saddle is dished, it will hold a puddle of water that will leak through the stitches. That is why they make a rain cover because once the foam in the saddle gets wet it will be days or weeks drying out again.
Saddles are a very individual thing, and even the custom made types do not mean they will work for you, at least not without some adjustments. My experience is that there is no way to tell how a saddle will feel after hours of riding on it by how it seems to feel at first; you have to wait until the pressure points make themselves apparent unfortunately. Best of luck finding one that works for you.
Brian
I'm planning a long trip to Yellowstone. Would you say the best seat for the job would be a Russell Day Long?
Are they water proof? I noticed they sell covers???
Also, I have 32" inseam, would that seat put me up any higher?
Thanks
Tony
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Its a Sargent and an Alaskan Leather seat cover for me! Its NICE!! ;D
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my vote on best seat for long rides goes to my OEM HONDA seat 8)
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/LR/20110501-DSC_0090_1_2_tonemapped.jpg)
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Pfftt... the stock ST1300 seat was a torture device, you could use it instead of water boarding :o