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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: 238mph on September 07, 2014, 09:42:44 AM

Title: A total waste of my time....
Post by: 238mph on September 07, 2014, 09:42:44 AM
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Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 10:04:18 AM
Coming off ZX-14s to my first GTR.   Two things really annoy me.  This whole FOB thing sucks.  Does anyone make a simple solution to go back to a key?

You can't disable the KIPASS system.   But like most new users, you are not used to it yet and might be using it in ways it was not intended.  It really works quite well if you give it a chance.

If, for some strange reason, you are hell-bent on "disabling" it, the only thing you could do is remove the key from the active fob and hide the fob in the dash, then remove the "stove key" from the ignition and use the smaller regular key all the time (never leaving it in the ignition).  But why?  Just put the FOB in your pocket and go.  Or do what I do and put it "permanently" in your riding jacket and never think about it again.

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And how do I permanently disable this traction control crap... I've been riding/racing for 40 years, I don't need a computer baby sitting me.

(It doesn't matter how long one has been riding/racing... on the street, traction control can be a very nice safety feature.  Although I can understand why someone might want to turn it off).

UPDATE/CORRECTION:  You can turn it off each time you start the bike, but, unfortunately, Kawasaki decided to make it a non-persistent setting.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 07, 2014, 11:15:50 AM
KIPASS will grow on you.  TC?  Find a lightly used Gen1, Silverdammit '08 is the fastest color anyway, so you have a head start on all the rest ;)
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 07, 2014, 12:06:49 PM
Coming off ZX-14s to my first GTR.

Two things really annoy me.  This whole FOB thing sucks.  Does anyone make a simple solution to go back to a key?

And how do I permanently disable this traction control crap... I've been riding/racing for 40 years, I don't need a computer baby sitting me.

Question 1 - No
Question 2 - You should have purchased an 08 or 09 (no linked brakes either)
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 12:28:49 PM
The easiest way around KiPass that I know of is not to purchase a Kawasaki C-14. Only bike currently imported to America with that system (other bikes have it but they are not imported to the US).

Same thing for traction control; just avoid models that have it.

Once installed, both are quite difficult to get around without extensive effort / expense / expertise.

There are other bikes in the same class that do not have these accoutrements: the Yamaha FJR and one of several BMW's are probably closest, and now Triumph has their own sport- tourer.

Brian

Maxtog, the TC is reset every time you restart the bike and comes back on automatically...

As for the Kipass thing... I simply hate fobs... in cars, trucks whatever... I hate em, and can't stand carrying the stupid thing in my pocket.  I switch jackets all the time, so I can't just leave it there.  I would keep it on the bike if I could figure out how to use the key to start the bike...  Can you explain how that manual key works.  I use it to remove the bags but don't know how I can lock, unlock and start the bike with the key itself.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 12:40:27 PM
Maxtog, the TC is reset every time you restart the bike and comes back on automatically...

I am sorry, I am absolutely wrong about that.  I was thinking of the linked brakes setting (high or low).  I will correct the original message.

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As for the Kipass thing... I simply hate fobs... in cars, trucks whatever... I hate em, and can't stand carrying the stupid thing in my pocket.  I switch jackets all the time, so I can't just leave it there.  I would keep it on the bike if I could figure out how to use the key to start the bike...  Can you explain how that manual key works.  I use it to remove the bags but don't know how I can lock, unlock and start the bike
with the key itself.

You should read the owner's manual first, it explains it (although not terribly well).  If you were to keep the active fob on the bike, and within range, then any normal metal key that came with the bike (or a copy you make) will start the bike-  Insert it, press down, turn and press start.   When leaving the bike, remove the metal key.  BUT YOU MUST NOT LEAVE THE METAL KEY IN THE HIDDEN FOB, or there is ZERO protection from someone starting the bike without a key if they find the hidden fob.

Alternative wording:  When using KIPASS as intended, you "never" remove the stove key [metal key with huge plastic knob] from the ignition.. it just acts as a control knob and spare key [that can only be removed with the FOB in range].  But you can flip the two around.... If you place the active fob always in range, then you can switch to inserting and removing the metal key instead.  Obviously it makes more sense to use a traditional metal key in such a case instead of putting the huge stove key in your pocket.  Use one of the mini metal keys from the FOB housings for this, or have a new standard key cut from it.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 12:51:49 PM
And how do I permanently disable this traction control crap... I've been riding/racing for 40 years, I don't need a computer baby sitting me.

By the way- you are the first person I have ever seen complain about the traction control.   And yet we have had a number about not being able to completely turn off the linked brakes.... yet you didn't include that in your list of "really annoying things".  :)
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: Rembrant on September 07, 2014, 03:05:21 PM
Question 1 - No
Question 2 - You should have purchased an 08 or 09 (no linked brakes either)

Or a 2010 as well.

Rem :o
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 07, 2014, 03:06:42 PM
Nah, they're slower.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 07, 2014, 03:32:59 PM
If you are doing the full meal deal, figure a way to use the ZX intake tubes.  I felt that lack of air in the upper Rs limited peak power, tuner agreed.  I have a copy of the dyno chart in my ZX14 TB thread.  Big, long flat spot at the end. 

Pure speculation/guess here.  I think if you simply removed the 2 ABS rings you could disable essentially the TC and ABS. 
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 07, 2014, 04:15:44 PM
Wow, I'm having trouble not bashing you.

Condescending, rich little ballsy fart blossem that you are comming off as. It tough to watch, and read the drivel you have posted... go smash an azz pocket on top of your gas tank, ride some wheelies, smash it up fast, and throw it away already. This sickens me reading this crap, WE ARE NOT IMPRESSED.....

Go dazzle your squid pals.

Thankz for visiting. Hope you enjoyed the first three days of you visit to the most vast knowledg database of both the ZG1400, and the ZG1000.
Think a few moments before you start asking for a reach around here, especially in the manner you started off with.

Oh, go to the official Concours Owners Group site, and throw all your b/s around there also, they moderate it heavily, so you migh not get to read opinions like the one I just wrote here.... but I'm there also.
Troll.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: gPink on September 07, 2014, 04:43:29 PM
 :popcorn: This thread is gonna deliver.... :finger_fing11:
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: tweeter55 on September 07, 2014, 05:04:26 PM
Arena material possibly...we shall see. :popcorn:
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: gPink on September 07, 2014, 05:36:55 PM
Arena material possibly...we shall see. :popcorn:
Has 238 been invited?
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 05:39:22 PM
Are you kidding? This thread has already delivered and may perhaps yield just a tad more. I mean I think the best parts have gone by but for a new guy, this one is doing fantastic!

Brian

:popcorn: This thread is gonna deliver.... :finger_fing11:
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 05:41:31 PM
Now Rich, that is just unnecessarily mean. I am not sure who is gonna' get the shortest end of that deal but it IS just plain mean. 

 :rotflmao:

Brian


<snip>

Oh, go to the official Concours Owners Group site, and throw all your b/s around there also, they moderate it heavily, so you migh not get to read opinions like the one I just wrote here.... but I'm there also.
Troll.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: Racer Boy on September 07, 2014, 05:48:19 PM
Wow, I'm having trouble not bashing you.

Condescending, rich little ballsy fart blossem that you are comming off as. It tough to watch, and read the drivel you have posted... go smash an azz pocket on top of your gas tank, ride some wheelies, smash it up fast, and throw it away already. This sickens me reading this crap, WE ARE NOT IMPRESSED.....

Go dazzle your squid pals.

Thankz for visiting. Hope you enjoyed the first three days of you visit to the most vast knowledg database of both the ZG1400, and the ZG1000.
Think a few moments before you start asking for a reach around here, especially in the manner you started off with.

Oh, go to the official Concours Owners Group site, and throw all your b/s around there also, they moderate it heavily, so you migh not get to read opinions like the one I just wrote here.... but I'm there also.
Troll.

Is this necessary? The new guy was simply asking questions, and shared his opinion on some of the "features" of the bike that he doesn't like.

If his opinion doesn't match yours, do you need to blast him? I've been on the receiving end of this very unwelcoming attitude here before. I'm sure I'll get blasted again for saying this, but the feeling to a newbie on this forum is that this is a small club that really doesn't want anyone new in the club.

Anyway, welcome 238mph! I hope you can get some answers to your questions.

You may get used to the KIPASS thing. I didn't like it much when I got my bike, but after a while I got used to it, and kind of like it now. Since you don't like fobs, you may never get used to it, but almost every new car or truck has one, so they are becoming the new normal.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 05:59:09 PM
Well, it was a bit harsh but then again, along comes a new guy, buys a C-14 and then dumps all over some of the main features of the bike. Kinda' like "Hi- I am new guy and this, that and the other thing that you guys own really sux." Not really the best ice- breaker, wouldn't you agree?

Besides that, I think it rather reflects on the person who spent his / her money, totally voluntarily, on such an item that at the very least contains and is fully integrated with the very things he / she is bashing. So if everyone else is supposed to be all warm and fuzzy with the new guy, does not the 'new guy' have any responsibility not to dump all over something quite a few of us happen to like? If I went to a motorcycle forum based on 'Brand X' and vomited all over about how bad 'Brand X' was, why would I expect a warm welcome?

But hey, everyone had his / her say, including you and I, so everyone can decide for him / herself who is right, wrong, stupid, etc., etc. And the great news is that none of it has been edited, deleted or set on fire by any moderators or the forum owner simply because it is not necessary to do so.... at least not yet. Of course we have not even heard from Kirby yet and who knows what that little fella' is going to think of all of this?   ;)

Brian

Is this necessary? The new guy was simply asking questions, and shared his opinion on some of the "features" of the bike that he doesn't like.

If his opinion doesn't match yours, do you need to blast him? I've been on the receiving end of this very unwelcoming attitude here before. I'm sure I'll get blasted again for saying this, but the feeling to a newbie on this forum is that this is a small club that really doesn't want anyone new in the club.

Anyway, welcome 238mph! I hope you can get some answers to your questions.

You may get used to the KIPASS thing. I didn't like it much when I got my bike, but after a while I got used to it, and kind of like it now. Since you don't like fobs, you may never get used to it, but almost every new car or truck has one, so they are becoming the new normal.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: gPink on September 07, 2014, 06:17:17 PM
Folks usually get back what they put in.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: Pokey on September 07, 2014, 06:18:31 PM
Such language......I for one am offended.....NOT. Yeah the NFG came off a bit harsh and brash IMHO, but hey he is who he is. MOB your post cracked me up by the way. This will be locked down soon I am sure......3...2.....1.....
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: jirod on September 07, 2014, 06:21:08 PM
...I'll just be a lurker that comes here, reads the posts and extracts the vital information I need and not contribute one  :censored: thing to the board...

That's exactly what I have come to expect from you.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: 556ALPHA on September 07, 2014, 06:34:14 PM
 :o
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: jirod on September 07, 2014, 06:35:02 PM
Well Jirod, just to **** you off, I'm going to post the Kawi Part numbers for OTHER members that want to disable to stupid linked braking and ABS.   Please be sure not to use them ok?  lol

You guys crack me up... you're like a bunch of sissies that gang up on one guy in a dark alley but don't have the balls when it's one on one... ::)

But, but... I have a 2008.  How would I disable what is not there? I figured since you're so smart you would know the answer? No?  Well, you see?  you have contributed nothing again.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 07, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
Boys, let's calm this a bit.  I must say I find this thread most interesting and would prefer not to lock it...yet.

Arena material possibly...we shall see. :popcorn:

Nope

:popcorn:  This thread is gonna deliver.... :finger_fing11:

Possibly...we'll see.  It's up to the members.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 07:04:29 PM
You may get used to the KIPASS thing. I didn't like it much when I got my bike, but after a while I got used to it, and kind of like it now. Since you don't like fobs, you may never get used to it, but almost every new car or truck has one, so they are becoming the new normal.

Yep, that is my sentiment.  My first reaction to some things is "WTF were they thinking" but try to keep an open mind and try it out.  It really isn't that bad.... and in many ways it is very convenient.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 07:12:48 PM
Ok, just to set the record straight, BFD, I didn't bash the bike... I love the bike... there are things about it (electronic) that I don't like about the bike... I bet 90% of the owners don't like all the electronic BS either. 

I think you might be surprised how many people like the electronic features.  There are times when it is frustrating when the designers don't add an "off" option, though.

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But the bike has a great power plant, awesome drive train, superior brakes and handling... all with a much more comfortable riding position than the ZX-14.   Just because I want to custom tune it to my preferences doesn't mean I'm bashing it...

Many on here get what you are saying.  But it is strange to see someone buy an expensive Concours and then disassemble all the great touring features off of it :)   I mean, you are getting rid of the mirrors???  They are really nice mirrors!  But whatever... to each his own.  Although it is an expensive starting platform, since you got it for such a song, it makes it easy to swallow.  BTW- you got the one with my second favorite color (that neat burgundy) it is a shame that it will go bye-bye; although black and white does look really cool on the Concours.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 07:15:01 PM
Look at the two pics I posted, one of the GTR and the other of my last ZX-14...  I'd almost bet the seat and rear cowl off the ZX will fit on the GTR.   Damn... I might be on to something here.
Comfort and ride position of the GTR (love the elec windscreen) but the streamlined looks for the ZX tail...

The ZX14 and Concours14 seats are interchangeable (like quite a few other parts), although there is a bracket you have to move on the seat.  Not sure about the rear cowl thing since I have never seen anymore remove the luggage rack from a Concours before so I doubt anyone has tried that.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: shreveportSS on September 07, 2014, 07:39:55 PM
Thanks for the seat info Max, now that's enough to push me to buy a used seat off a ZX and the rear cowl... Saaaaweet!

Ya gotta remember it's hard to ride ZX-14s for 6 years and then go to a different bike.  I tried a Goldwing and friggin hated it...  Also rode a vstom 1000 and it sucked too.
So I'm hoping this will be a nice bridge from the all out fighter to more of an interceptor... if ya get my drift.  I just gotta make it my own.

Speaking of making things... I design and build these. I know it's off topic.

I'm thinking you may be better off modding a ZX-14 into a more upright riding position. You may be disappointed with the engine as she ain't no ZX-14.
 You may call a tuner like Guhl or Ivan and see if they can disable the TC.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
Ya gotta remember it's hard to ride ZX-14s for 6 years and then go to a different bike.  I tried a Goldwing and friggin hated it...  Also rode a vstom 1000 and it sucked too.  So I'm hoping this will be a nice bridge from the all out fighter to more of an interceptor... if ya get my drift.  I just gotta make it my own. 

A Goldwing is like a barge compared to the Concours... no comparison at all.  Vstrom is quite different too.  If you are looking for something seems familiar to the ZX, it doesn't get much closer than the Concours, so you are on the right path.  Same size, similar engine, similar transmission, similar configuration, same controls, same manufacturer.

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Speaking of making things... I design and build these. I know it's off topic.

Neat looking.  Not something I would buy, but still interesting.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 07:49:33 PM
I'm thinking you may be better off modding a ZX-14 into a more upright riding position.

Seat and bar configuration would be easy.  The hardest part would be the pegs/shifter.  And it sounds like he likes the shaft drive and at least a few of the other touring features.

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You may be disappointed with the engine as she ain't no ZX-14.  You may call a tuner like Guhl or Ivan and see if they can disable the TC.

Yeah, but if he was willing to give a Goldwing or Vstrom a chance, the Concours is waaaaaaaaaay far ahead in his game.... especially after mods.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 07, 2014, 07:50:13 PM
New ideas...I like that.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
So this isn't the first forum to suffer through.... you.

 :rotflmao:

Brian


Ya gotta remember it's hard to ride ZX-14s for 6 years and then go to a different bike.  I tried a Goldwing and friggin hated it...  Also rode a vstom 1000 and it sucked too.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 07:59:53 PM
Hey Jim, you really gonna' let this language fly? If I wanted to read this, I would go to the other forum and stop paying dues.... and then I could use any language I wanted (apparently).

By the way, if you edit the copied post, please edit or just erase the copied content of this post.

Brian

Ok, just to set the record straight, BFD, I didn't bash the bike... I love the bike... there are things about it (electronic) that I don't like about the bike... I bet 90% of the owners don't like all the electronic BS either. 

But the bike has a great power plant, awesome drive train, superior brakes and handling... all with a much more comfortable riding position than the ZX-14.   Just because I want to custom tune it to my preferences doesn't mean I'm bashing it... I'm more of a purist, I don't need Daddy govt protecting me with ABS and other "safety" features that an experienced rider doesn't need or want.

Sorry this thread has become ugly... no problem.  I'll just be a lurker that comes here, reads the posts and extracts the vital information I need and not contribute one  :censored: thing to the board.

Is that what you boneheads want?  BFD, NFP (No  :censored: Problem)
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 08:05:52 PM
Dis guy gotta' live under a bridge somewhere.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f82/BDF08012008/Trollspray.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/BDF08012008/media/Trollspray.jpg.html)

Brian



Also, as much as I hate to admit... I'm getting old.  At 60 I should not still be doing stand up wheelies on the interstate, and stoppies in the parking lots... It's time to tone it down a bit, but not to a Goldwing etc.  I'm also a bit old to be doing 195mph through the AZ desert heading down to Tombstone for breakfast...

On the weekends, hwy 82-83 from Tucson to Tombstone is a wide open event.  In 6 years I've never met anyone that could get past my 14s... I'm sorta proud of that
but I just can't keep it up.  I've been real lucky, never been caught and never arrested.   

If the GTR can do 170mph I'll be happy... does anyone know the top speed?  Will I run out of hp or rpm?   Hard to change the final drive ratio on a driveshaft.  I'm hoping it's geared tall enough that if I have the hp I can get up into some respectable triple digits..
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: gPink on September 07, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
You bust on me then cry like a baby when it gets tossed back at you.. unbelievable.   Drop out of the thread... quit coming back ya little whiner. You ride a bike right?
I didn't think this was a Marry Poppins forum... :) 

No, it's a forum of somewhat like minded individuals with a common liking of a specific brand an model of motorcycle. Said individuals enjoy reasonable discussions concerning said motorcycles. What I have noticed is when a new member to the forum introduces himself as the biggest dick on the forum he usually gets treated as such. Enjoy the bike and your time here.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: tweeter55 on September 07, 2014, 08:24:46 PM
It's all about attitude...or lack thereof. :stirpot:
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 08:26:00 PM
Jim will fix this up. This guy is one o' dem guize from da' other forum who hops in either as a guest or a troll.

I am really surprised Rick is as tolerant as he is with 'those guys'. They are not nearly so tolerant of him.

Brian

No, it's a forum of somewhat like minded individuals with a common liking of a specific brand an model of motorcycle. Said individuals enjoy reasonable discussions concerning said motorcycles. What I have noticed is when a new member to the forum introduces himself as the biggest  :censored: on the forum he usually gets treated as such. Enjoy the bike and your time here.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: tweeter55 on September 07, 2014, 08:39:37 PM
Wait for it...3...2..1
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: Cuda on September 07, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
What is going on? I guess this fits in?

(Really, Cuda?.....Jim)
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 08:51:14 PM
Can we guess the forum you moderate?

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Brian

Yes, as a former moderator, I know the normal rules of a forum.  There are rules against badgering other members.  And if your moderator reviews this thread I think he will see a whole lot of badgering. 

Just because you don't agree with a post, or a certain member, doesn't give you the right to badger someone.  Call them " :censored: " and other terms...

So I really hope the moderator will lock this thread, strip out the off topic posts, give a couple of members a warning and leave the valuable, to the point posts made by myself and Maxtog on modifying the GTR.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: harry76 on September 07, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
Is this necessary? The new guy was simply asking questions, and shared his opinion on some of the "features" of the bike that he doesn't like.

If his opinion doesn't match yours, do you need to blast him? I've been on the receiving end of this very unwelcoming attitude here before. I'm sure I'll get blasted again for saying this, but the feeling to a newbie on this forum is that this is a small club that really doesn't want anyone new in the club.

Anyway, welcome 238mph! I hope you can get some answers to your questions.



I agree with Racer Boy!
Some of the "regulars" started this train wreck.
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 09:02:28 PM
I didn't think this was a Marry Poppins forum... :)

BDF is not a whiner, by far.  And he is a very well respected member who contributes a LOT.  We are not used to people throwing around a lot of cursing and puffing and such.  You will find zggtr.org is filled with a lot of really nice and great people who are willing to welcome and help just anyone; and generally very polite.  But there are limits to peoples' patience (some much more than others).  Heck, even I have been attacked before.... and for far, far, far less (you will never see me launch personal attacks, although I sometimes respond "in kind" when pushed.)

It is just that you came in a bit too strong for some readers.  Others may have misinterpreted your intentions, and still others might see you as a show-off.  Although I think what you are doing with the bike is very unusual, it is pretty interesting and do wish you success.  I do hope the thread is cleaned some (you might keep Jim busy).  Just chill a bit and let some stuff slide off and things might go better...
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: maxtog on September 07, 2014, 09:15:38 PM
If the GTR can do 170mph I'll be happy... does anyone know the top speed?  Will I run out of hp or rpm?

The gen 2 (2010+) has a top speed limiter in the ECU which can be disabled with reflashing it.  150 stock is easily possible (which is the speed limiter).  Higher speeds have been reported with/without the limiter (like 165, indicated) but I have not seen 170 reported (doesn't mean it can't do it).  Speedometer error becomes significant at very high speeds.  Bike has plenty of power to push to top speed, but aerodynamics can be a limiting factor unless you start to shed the large screen and bags and such.

No, I have never gone that fast and never will (have absolutely no desire)...

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=178.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=178.0)
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 07, 2014, 10:59:09 PM
Off topic-to get back on topic.  Kinda at odds here, but I'll take the adult approach (shocking, right?).  BDF (Brian) is a friend and all around great guy who along with Man Of Blues (MOB) (great guy as well) have contributed as much info as all the rest combined to the C14 community.  Please, respect their opinion.  Was there some dumping?  Certainly, as a newb to this forum, as well as any other, there is a certain amount of time in learning personalities, road goes 2 ways.  Lots of things are tolerated here that are blasted elsewhere, strong, foul language isn't one of the things tolerated, and rightfully so.  I sold my hot rod of a C14 early this year, yet I am still a regular because I genuinely like the folks, we have a few squabbles, but I feel it is safe to say we'd help out should something ever arise where we could be of help.  Swallow the humble pill, make amends, and move on.

Back on topic.  Many of the things you are doing/looking at doing are the same I had in mind, I got bit by the ADV bug and my C14 just wasn't be used.  I miss the heck out of that thing...

Open the air in, drop 50-60 pounds ( get creative), get a good suspension, the TBs mentioned, polished (I bet you already know about this), short vel stacks, and a good tune.  I see 180ish RWHP as a peak #, and I would bet you get north of 180 on the GPS.  My best GPS speed was 156 at the track, plenty more but turn one was approaching rapidly...  Study up on fuel pumps, not sure if the OEM pump will deliver enough fuel once she hits peak numbers.  I'd also recommend contacting Guhl to bump the Rs up another grand, say 12,500.  I get it, power is addictive.

Se, please heed my words, this is hands down my all time fav forum.

Chet
Title: Re: New bike, two really annoying things. any suggestions?
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 07, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Bunch of immature people on here, I don't care how many posts they have made.

It's really simple, if you don't have something positive to say, ignore the thread... it serves no purpose to come back over and over and bash a member.
I PROMISE if we were all in the same room, they wouldn't talk to me like that...

you wouldnt want to put your money where your mouth is... I'm 60 and still I'd knock your Dick in the dirt...
your talkin like you have Two Brunswick's hangin between your legs, while you type your drivel...
Popped off 20+ posts of boasts in a day, to feed your pimple headed ego.

and you have no freakin clues about doing a valve adjust on this bike, mr. racerboy?
some of these folks are gentle, I'm not.
you entered and became a serious retard.
I wouldn't P1$$ in your ear if your brain was on fire.
What a freakin Maroon...  3'''2''''1'''' lock this biotch and ban this dufass...please, or just shoot me in the eye....
http://youtu.be/SSZ1h-bydS4 (http://youtu.be/SSZ1h-bydS4)
http://youtu.be/C_Kh7nLplWo (http://youtu.be/C_Kh7nLplWo)
http://youtu.be/pkYNBwCEeH4 (http://youtu.be/pkYNBwCEeH4)



do something interesting, show us a picture of your girlfriend...

3.....2........1..........

Cuda, never seen a better post.... priceless...
What is going on? I guess this fits in?
http://youtu.be/UfHtcUZXljw (http://youtu.be/UfHtcUZXljw)
Title: Re: A total waste of my time....
Post by: martin_14 on September 08, 2014, 12:50:47 AM
wow.
I've been away for the weekend, visiting a friend.
Now I'm in the office sipping my coffee, perusing the latest posts here, and find these 3 pages of... how to call it?... nonsense? My English doesn't get that far.

 :banghead:

 :pukeface:

Just wow.

MOB, I appreciate your knowledge and benefit from it, but your attitude (lack of intelligent manners disguised as bluntness) can be toned down quite a bit. The OP came unnecessarily hard, but those who have some time here could stay on top, couldn't we?
Title: Re: A total waste of my time....
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 08, 2014, 04:03:48 AM
 :o Wow, I have a nice drink of wine, go to bed with happy thoughts, and wake up to this.  I gotta leave early this morning so I'm not going to have a lot a time to massage this thread or think about what I'm going to say in closing....and I will have something to say to everyone involved.  I'll see what I can do and then I'll finish it up later. 

SOP sums it up nicely...

Off topic-to get back on topic.  Kinda at odds here, but I'll take the adult approach (shocking, right?).  BDF (Brian) is a friend and all around great guy who along with Man Of Blues (MOB) (great guy as well) have contributed as much info as all the rest combined to the C14 community.  Please, respect their opinion.  Was there some dumping?  Certainly, as a newb to this forum, as well as any other, there is a certain amount of time in learning personalities, road goes 2 ways.  Lots of things are tolerated here that are blasted elsewhere, strong, foul language isn't one of the things tolerated, and rightfully so.  I sold my hot rod of a C14 early this year, yet I am still a regular because I genuinely like the folks, we have a few squabbles, but I feel it is safe to say we'd help out should something ever arise where we could be of help.  Swallow the humble pill, make amends, and move on.


Chet

To say that I'm disappointed in how this thread turned out is an understatement.  To everyone, we don't tolerate the kind of language and video that I had to censor.  I don't like censoring posts and threads.  It upsets me and I don't like to be upset.  It causes me not to drink.  This is one the only place (well the UK forum as well, but that's it) I come to be happy with like mostly minded people who love the C14.  There are ways of expressing an opinion here that do not involve personal attacks from both sides of the aisle.  AND just because an individual says things that raise ire is no cause to respond back in like fashion.

After an initial WTF from myself concerning the OP and his ideas on modifying the C14, I found myself wanting to see what he was going to do in spite of his heresy.  You know guys, we need people coming here with fresh ideas on modifications...however, the manner that these ideas came across to the membership was somewhat different than what we were used to unfortunately.  Sigh.

As a reminder, there is an ignore button...somewhere.  Just use it if you don't agree with someone's opinion.