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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #80 on: October 02, 2014, 05:52:55 PM »
We'll see where this goes.  He should never have been let into the country.  Anybody traveling from that part of the world should be stopped from entering our borders but it's a bit late now.

Only caught it in passing but I thought I heard that he was indeed questioned and had temp taken at some international airport; as part of routine he answered the questions asked of him and had no fever so unless they start a 21 day quarantine on anyone and everyone coming out of one of the known countries there is no way to know....
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #81 on: October 02, 2014, 06:33:58 PM »
Something like 13000 active US visa holders in west Africa. Passports...belief of cure in America....no working quarantine protocol for entering this country.....We live in interesting times.

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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #83 on: October 02, 2014, 07:15:02 PM »
Exactly- there is no way to stop incoming diseases / conditions without the use of non- negotiable quarantine. Even then, the incubation period of some diseases is long enough that quarantine would not be practical (assuming it would be even for one full day (24 hours), which I doubt would be nearly long enough to be useful).

England does not have rabies on the island and they are anxious to avoid it- wisely so IMO. Try getting a dog into the UK- automatic quarantine with few, if any, work- arounds (random dogs being brought into the UK as pets). And the quarantine is fairly long for rabies at 21 days, where would '21 days worth' of people entering the UK go? Who would pay for that?

1.19 billion (yep, billion) tourists visited the US in 2005 alone. How many of them would visit if there was a 10 day or longer quarantine?

And as far as restricting people from entering from a particular point of origin, that would be far easier.... when it worked. If I am not mistaken, I believe the guy referenced in the Reuters article traveled through Europe to get here.

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Only caught it in passing but I thought I heard that he was indeed questioned and had temp taken at some international airport; as part of routine he answered the questions asked of him and had no fever so unless they start a 21 day quarantine on anyone and everyone coming out of one of the known countries there is no way to know....
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #84 on: October 02, 2014, 07:47:51 PM »
We'll see where this goes.  He should never have been let into the country.  Anybody traveling from that part of the world should be stopped from entering our borders but it's a bit late now.

+1

Liberia is going to prosecute him when he returns according to the news. He lied and said he hadn;t come in contact with anyone with the Ebola.

(like he'll ever return!)
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2014, 04:37:55 AM »
I think that he knew he was going to get it and wanted to come here for treatment.  Can't really blame him for that, but his family is now quarantined and under house arrest, effectively.  What about that apartment?  It's sure to be infected with it and what happens to the waste water that goes into sewage treatment?  Does it carry the disease?

Just heard one of the film crew from NBC that was over there came down with it.  They're on the way back here.  Yet another chance to spread it over here.  I'm not happy about this whole thing.
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2014, 04:49:47 AM »
A big problem for me is that something like ebola will become the suicide vest of the near future.

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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2014, 05:07:22 AM »
Could very well be...
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2014, 06:45:51 AM »
A big problem for me is that something like ebola will become the suicide vest of the near future.

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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2014, 08:06:37 AM »
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2014, 09:44:21 AM »
I was thirty years or more figuring that out. I would never believe anyone or worse, everyone could be so stupid as to cause [put bad behavior here]. But it really is true- stupidity and its much more powerful cousin, apathy, can and has caused far more damage than the most evil of humans.

Back to the Ebola thing- I still do not believe it can become an epidemic in the US but we sure can suffer some spots of growth. I think this is going to turn out like 9-11 did; the actual and outright cost is minimal compared to the ongoing cost of trying to prevent / reduce the next similar event. And who knows, this may cause social changes we cannot even see coming: what if as a general group, we become wary of forming groups due to the possibility of spreading disease(s)? I wonder what that is going to look like in 10, 20 years?

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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #91 on: October 03, 2014, 10:41:27 AM »
I was thirty years or more figuring that out. I would never believe anyone or worse, everyone could be so stupid as to cause [put bad behavior here]. But it really is true- stupidity and its much more powerful cousin, apathy, can and has caused far more damage than the most evil of humans.

Back to the Ebola thing- I still do not believe it can become an epidemic in the US but we sure can suffer some spots of growth. I think this is going to turn out like 9-11 did; the actual and outright cost is minimal compared to the ongoing cost of trying to prevent / reduce the next similar event. And who knows, this may cause social changes we cannot even see coming: what if as a general group, we become wary of forming groups due to the possibility of spreading disease(s)? I wonder what that is going to look like in 10, 20 years?

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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #92 on: October 03, 2014, 11:00:56 AM »
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #93 on: October 03, 2014, 11:07:16 AM »
He's looking for it, cause he knows you hid it while he was taking a nap.
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #94 on: October 03, 2014, 12:12:24 PM »
Everyone will only meet virtually such as FB or this place.

Hmmm....

I've caught a pretty nasty farkling bug since joining up here....     ;D

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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #95 on: October 03, 2014, 12:32:21 PM »
He's looking for it, cause he knows you hid it while he was taking a nap.

No way.
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #96 on: October 03, 2014, 12:47:52 PM »
Yeah but that is not a disease or 'bug' but rather a disorder. And there is no amount of isolation that will fix that one.... Let's face it, if we were stranded on a desert island, we would probably spell out "Need new grip covers" on the beach for passing plane to spot it. Pathetic but true.

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Hmmm....

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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #97 on: October 05, 2014, 06:29:58 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/05/us-health-ebola-usa-patient-idUSKCN0HT0MZ20141005
I'm sure most of you have seen this already.
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Re: Ebola victim in the U.S.
« Reply #98 on: October 16, 2014, 04:34:00 AM »
All right Gentleman, this whole dog and pony show has reached a new level of bad. It appears that those in charge of the fedgov are at best criminally negligent or quite possibly criminally insane. Is this gov trying to deliberately spread disease and panic?

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« Reply #99 on: October 16, 2014, 11:53:24 AM »
All right Gentleman, this whole dog and pony show has reached a new level of bad. It appears that those in charge of the fedgov are at best criminally negligent or quite possibly criminally insane. Is this gov trying to deliberately spread disease and panic?
One never knows, but wouldn't put it past any of our governments nowadays. The super rich rule the planet.....they be the PHARMACEUTICAL (who wouldn't stand to make any profit from this, haven't cured anything since Polio), oil and food corporations who all are in cahoots'! Just a conspiracy theory:(
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