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Offline MAN OF BLUES

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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2011, 05:09:32 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on May 17, 2011, 03:24:55 PM
thats one level of riding i suppose
come to Va.,and ride.....use your brakes....
then we can go over to W. Va., and you can use your brakes some more...
and then we can go to rt 129......in the south, use your brakes...

brakes are for stopping, the rest is called "throttle control".

or do you simply hit the brakes while the throttle is turned on?
do you drive a car with one foot on the brake, and the other on the gas...never mind.

sorry, just getting over the "DaveO thing"


he was a friend of ours. R.I.P.
you're new it seems.
carry on.
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2011, 05:14:19 PM »
Quote from: MAN OF BLUES on May 17, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
come to Va.,and ride.....use your brakes....
then we can go over to W. Va., and you can use your brakes some more...
and then we can go to rt 129......in the south, use your brakes...

brakes are for stopping, the rest is called "throttle control".

or do you simply hit the brakes while the throttle is turned on?
do you drive a car with one foot on the brake, and the other on the gas...never mind.

You also left out Eastern/South Eastern Ohio.......and Tenn, NC and Northern Georgia!!!! 8)
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2011, 07:06:57 PM »
Quote from: MAN OF BLUES on May 17, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
come to Va.,and ride.....use your brakes....
then we can go over to W. Va., and you can use your brakes some more...
and then we can go to rt 129......in the south, use your brakes...

brakes are for stopping, the rest is called "throttle control".

or do you simply hit the brakes while the throttle is turned on?
do you drive a car with one foot on the brake, and the other on the gas...never mind.

sorry, just getting over the "DaveO thing"


he was a friend of ours. R.I.P.
you're new it seems.
carry on.

 i ride all those places .  I was riding 129 before it got famous and just a carnival.
I never was afraid to use my brakes either .Im a big fan of brakes.
Im a very proficent,smooth  braker .
I guess if you dont use them much you would never know the  power and how good they can be.
Why do you not like using them?
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2011, 07:20:15 PM »
Quote from: Rowlander on May 17, 2011, 02:47:23 PM
I'm not sure when engine braking became a sin. ;)

Amen!

+1 on what Pokey said, "brakes are for stopping, gears are for slowing down."




I kinda like the little bit of decel pop that I get on my C14.  It is just a little reminder that just because my grey bike has bags doesn't make it grandpa's slow bagger. 
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2011, 07:24:52 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on May 17, 2011, 07:06:57 PM

 i ride all those places .  I was riding 129 before it got famous and just a carnival.
I never was afraid to use my brakes either .Im a big fan of brakes.
Im a very proficent,smooth  braker .
I guess if you dont use them much you would never know the  power and how good they can be.
Why do you not like using them?

Is this gonna turn into one of those "my ding-a-ling is bigger than yours" debate?   ;D

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Offline Dade22

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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2011, 07:29:18 PM »
A while back I posted a question about removing the emissions control stuff.  Block off plates and stuff.  This will remove the decel pop you get.  Down side is I can find the information on the guy selling the kits to do this.  I know its easier to just plug the line, but why not get ride of a pound or so of un-needed parts!


If anyone can direct me to the guy/website selling the kit I would be greatful!


Thanks.

dade22
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2011, 07:29:31 PM »
Quote from: Jeremy Mitchell on May 17, 2011, 07:20:15 PM
Amen!

I kinda like the little bit of decel pop that I get on my C14.  It is just a little reminder that just because my grey bike has bags doesn't make it grandpa's slow bagger.

+ 1.  My ZX14 pops and shoots foot long flames, my Concours pops and burbles and sometimes shoots a flame.  I like em both............
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2011, 07:37:51 PM »
Quote from: Jeremy Mitchell on May 17, 2011, 07:20:15 PM

+1 on what Pokey said, "brakes are for stopping, gears are for slowing down."





with all due respect Jeremy,you are  a new rider arent you??
As i said ,its one level of riding ...One of the first levels.
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2011, 07:52:22 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on May 17, 2011, 07:37:51 PM
with all due respect Jeremy,you are  a new rider arent you??
As i said ,its one level of riding ...One of the first levels.


Ok you got me I've only been riding for a little over a year so there must me no freakin' way that I know what I'm doing.........................  ::)



With all due respect DaveO, you haven't ridden with me so you have no idea what kind of riding skills I have built up since I started riding.  I, by no means think that I am a great rider but I have had no problems braking in a corner and trail braking. 


I just think your opinion that engine braking is a crutch rather than a tool is off base.  But like the saying goes "opinion are like buttholes, everyone has one and yours stinks the worst" might apply to me.  But out of most any actual riders I think you are going to be in the minority with your opinion.  Lets agree to disagree.  ;)
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2011, 08:07:47 PM »
This is the internet. There is no "agree to disagree" when your WRONG!!!




 And I sometimes use the engine to slow myself down. Guess I'm a newbie too.
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2011, 08:09:00 PM »
Quote from: Pokey on May 17, 2011, 05:14:19 PM
You also left out Eastern/South Eastern Ohio.......and Tenn, NC and Northern Georgia!!!! 8)

Don't forget Arkansas...Lots of engine braking going on here....And my brake pads look great. 
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2011, 08:11:44 PM »
Does anyone have a picture or diagram as to the exact location of this hose and any ideas of a suitable plug or ways to block this hose off? Thanks
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2011, 08:12:17 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on May 17, 2011, 07:37:51 PM
with all due respect Jeremy,you are  a new rider arent you??
As i said ,its one level of riding ...One of the first levels.

Jeremy = Newbie   :rotflmao:
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Re: Popping when engine braking
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2011, 08:31:31 PM »
Why do race bikes..........."OH" and the C14 have a slipper clutch? :stirpot:

Hmmmmmmmmm.............different levels for sure!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipper_clutch
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2011, 09:41:26 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on May 17, 2011, 07:37:51 PM
with all due respect Jeremy,you are  a new rider arent you??
As i said ,its one level of riding ...One of the first levels.

So you never downshift?  You descend every hill in 6th gear?  Roll up to a stop sign in 6th and then click it down five times to 1st.  Please enlighten me on this higher level of smooth braking.  I'm not following your superior method.
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2011, 09:47:27 PM »
Quote from: Pardini on May 17, 2011, 09:41:26 PM
So you never downshift?  You descend every hill in 6th gear?  Roll up to a stop sign in 6th and then click it down five times to 1st.  Please enlighten me on this higher level of smooth braking.  I'm not following your superior method.


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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2011, 05:24:39 AM »
Quote from: DaveO on May 17, 2011, 07:06:57 PM

 i ride all those places .  I was riding 129 before it got famous and just a carnival.
I never was afraid to use my brakes either .Im a big fan of brakes.
Im a very proficent,smooth  braker .
I guess if you dont use them much you would never know the  power and how good they can be.
Why do you not like using them?

I've been saving my brakes for a time when I really need them, you never know. It's hard timing the stop lights and coasting to a stop each time, the folks behind me get kinda mad. Maybe one day I'll be able to ride as well as you do? Till then I'll be engine braking and saving those brake pads.    ::)
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2011, 05:45:34 AM »
All fine and well Conrad but do you ever use the anchor? Why do you think the anchor is on the bike in the first place? Don't you watch cartoons- they always use an anchor.

Brian


Quote from: Conrad on May 18, 2011, 05:24:39 AM
I've been saving my brakes for a time when I really need them, you never know. It's hard timing the stop lights and coasting to a stop each time, the folks behind me get kinda mad. Maybe one day I'll be able to ride as well as you do? Till then I'll be engine braking and saving those brake pads.    ::)
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Re: Popping when engine braking
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2011, 06:05:52 AM »
Quote from: PhantomBlade on May 17, 2011, 08:11:44 PM
Does anyone have a picture or diagram as to the exact location of this hose and any ideas of a suitable plug or ways to block this hose off? Thanks
In all of that excitement, one question was lost.....almost. Sorry friend, I don't have any, but I'm sure someone will help you shortly.
Ohh, almost forgot.....you can call me a Newbie, I like the idea of engine braking and saving those brake pads,too!
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