The Over the Pond team has formed and is working on Over the Pond again.
This will be the 13th time we have sent Travelers on the Dream of a Lifetime.
1 of those "OtP" Travelers was our own Rick Hall.....
I haven't put anything on this Forum (as honestly) I'm having trouble keeping up with all the Discussions on the other.
I will attach shortcuts on this note for those that want to get in on the fun?
In the discussions, Abusing "Harry Martin" is a large part of my fun. <evil grin>
Also, "IMPORTANT",, Voting for this years Traveler has started. If you want to vote,,,, do so!!
Why I decided to post here now;
One of the COG Members has offered something that I think some of you would be interested in.
So, I decided to post the deal here .
Charlie Gary makes Name Plates (that fit in the window of the C-10 Connies).
These name Plates can also be attached to the C-14.
Charlie has offered to make (and sell) the nameplates (and the $$ will go to this years "Over the Pond")...
My thought is that; some of you might want one of these Name Plates made for your Connie???
If so, go here.........
http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,57015.msg430263.html#msg430263 (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,57015.msg430263.html#msg430263)
Ride safe, Ted
PS: If anyone has questions about "OtP" and want them answered here,, let me know, and I'll reply here....
Sure, I'll post the names.
NOTE: At the beginning we had more Candidates, but some had to decline the Nomination for personal reasons.
The 5 Candidates are; Drumroll please!!
Mark Hartman
Charlie Gary
Chris Baum
Mike Aldea
Al Norcross
NOTE: The easiest way to know what is going on is to monitor the countless Discussions on the other Forum.
Answer to Important question from BDF.
I have no idea what you mean about adjusting the vote?
Adjusting the vote is not possible.
{Dave is collecting the votes, and keeping COG numbers etc to ensure we have records of all votes that come in}.
Over the Years, we've found that the Better Known Candidate has a huge advantage.
Because we see that, Hans and I have worked to find ways to give the Lesser known candidates a better chance.
This year we went back to allowing Forum subscribers, Significant Others, and Non Members to vote (by Joining COG/GCE or donating to Over the Pond).
This brings $$ into OtP, brings in COG and GCE Members, involves people that have not yet joined the clubs (but are interested),
and (hopefully) gives the Lesser known Candidates a better chance to win.
(Note: Forum subscribers, Significant Others, and Non Members have always been able to vote).
Possibly he considers this as an adjustment? I suggest we ask him....
Before anyone says; The Winner can be elected by a Candidate Buying votes,,,,.
He can not. Because it is NOT POSSIBLE.
In the rules we stated that we would monitor all votes and if we see this as a problem, we will take action.
It has proved to be a non issue as (at this time) only about 3-4 votes have come in this way.
As I said above; {Dave is collecting the votes, and keeping COG numbers etc to ensure we have records of all votes that come in}.
NOTE: I {intentionally} do not see the votes until after the Winner is selected.
By not knowing who is ahead, I can be neutral and help "all" the Candidates.
I do talk to Dave regularly to check on any issues he may see. To date, none have been noted.
(Approx. 120 votes have been sent in at this time)..
Ride safe, Ted
Here is the best way I can explain;
No One else does something like OtP. We want all candidates to have a fair chance.
We're inventing a process as we go; We're trying things to assure all candidates have a chance to win...
And we're checking ourselves (publicly) so that all know we are not hiding anything...
If we notice that more votes are coming in from Non Members than Members,,
we will do some type of FAIR adjustment.
WE do NOT expect this to happen, but I want to bring it up as a per-caution."
I guess your correct. As you know I'm a pretty basic guy. (ie: Not a Politician)
If anyone knows a better way, help me. Join the OtP Team...
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Ride safe, Ted
We don't fiddle with or Fudge the votes.
Votes are counted 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.
Each vote is counted as 1, not 60% or 40% of 1.
(THAT WOULD BE FUDGING A VOTE).
The reason OtP is part of OtP/GCE is; Hans and I are the OtP Co-ordinators.
As COG/GCE Members "we" want it that way.
If someone else decides to do something like "OtP", and not include COG/GCE, go for it.
I already admitted I miss spoke when I said;
If we notice that more votes are coming in from Non Members than Members,,
we will do some type of FAIR adjustment.
WE do NOT expect this to happen, but I want to bring it up as a per-caution."
Maybe:??
OtP Is a COG/GCE Event.
We do not want Non Members to overrule COG/GCE Voters.
We do want Non member's to participate in this COG/GCE event.
Ride safe, Ted
You are quoting me and taking it's meaning incorrectly..
Read below.
As I have said, I miss- spoke, But have no idea how to be more clear.
Ted
First of all; "For clarity"
Requirements for Voting
1) Current COG/GCE Members are entitled to 1 Vote.
2) An Associate Member {of a Current COG/GCE Member} is entitled to 1 vote.
3) Significant Others {That are NOT Associate members}, can vote 1 time.
BUT {before Voting} a $10 (Minimum) Donation must be made to "Over the Pond" by that person.
4) Forum Subscribers (with a minimum of 20 posts) can vote 1 time.
BUT {before Voting} a $10 (Minimum) Donation must be made to "Over the Pond" by that person.
5) Non Members can vote 1 time.
BUT {before Voting} a $15 (Minimum) Donation must be made to "Over the Pond" by that person.
NOTE: WE want the Winner to be selected by the club Members.
We allowed Forum Subscribers and Non Members to vote so that friends of the Candidates can assist in
the selection of the Winner.
BUT: we will be monitoring the votes to ensure that the Winner is selected primarily by COG/GCE Members!
If we notice that more votes are coming in from Non Members than Members,,
we will do some type of FAIR adjustment.
WE do NOT expect this to happen, but I want to bring it up as a per-caution.
Ok, I give up.. You quoted him, not me...
What were we talking about? ::)
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Did I get that right?? ???
Ride safe, Ted
Geeezzzz, Brian. Take a pill! Either get involved with the process, or step back. These guys are not the enemy. The Reds are a comin'!
Thanks Brian. You and I are fine..
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Ride safe, Ted (Hope to see you at an event again)