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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: SteelCityGuy on January 13, 2016, 05:11:06 PM
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Hello, so my problem is my hands get frozen when riding for 1+ hour in temps below 30. I use icon winter gloves with cycle gear cold liners and the grip heaters cranked all the way up. I'm assuming it's due to the air hitting my hands. Two options I'm considering are a calsci x wide windshield or project D aero wings. Currently my bike is 100% stock so which do you think would help me ?
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Heated gloves and if you're a hands on guy Mr. Pope gave us this excellent plan for air wings...
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10501.msg128285#msg128285 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10501.msg128285#msg128285)
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I have not seen a CalSci X-wide 'in the flesh' so cannot be sure but I doubt there will be enough windshield, low enough at the outer edges, to provide decent hand protection. Baker hand wings work very well for me, and there are other brands also.
As already mentioned in this thread, hand guards coupled with heated gloves will absolutely solve your problem; at least it has for me and I ride when it is below 20F out.
Brian
Hello, so my problem is my hands get frozen when riding for 1+ hour in temps below 30. I use icon winter gloves with cycle gear cold liners and the grip heaters cranked all the way up. I'm assuming it's due to the air hitting my hands. Two options I'm considering are a calsci x wide windshield or project D aero wings. Currently my bike is 100% stock so which do you think would help me ?
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Gerbings heated gear...
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I just turn on the heated grips. With them I typically am OK with my 3-season (vented + breathable) gloves to about 40F with occasional dips below. But colder than that (which is a rare ride for me), I switch to the heavier Olympia Wind-Tex and no prob (well, except for it being harder to work controls and such).
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I was gonna say RUN!! Run away!!!
But remembered that's advice for cold feet.
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Heated gloves and if you're a hands on guy Mr. Pope gave us this excellent plan for air wings...
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10501.msg128285#msg128285 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10501.msg128285#msg128285)
Thanks gPink!
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Agree 100% step 1 is get the wind off your hands. I commute 30 minutes to and from work in 20f with just a pair of leather non insulated non heated gloves and I'm fine. I wouldn't go cross country like that but 30 minutes I'm fine. I forget what brand wind guards I have but very similar to what the Pope's home ones do.
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I ride all year and my hands were only cold once about 10 years ago...that afternoon I got a pair of Gerbings. I now have two more pairs of heated Gloves from Warm and Safe...http://www.warmnsafe.com/ (http://www.warmnsafe.com/) one of their gen4 jackets, and new this year Gerbing heated insoles.
Warm and safe is a bit cheaper than Gerbing, and not a Chinese company either.
btw...one of my morning commutes last week it was 8F, and I was toasty!
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btw...one of my morning commutes last week it was 8F, and I was toasty!
OMG, just shoot me. My hands might be warm, but the rest of me would be frozen solid!
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http://www.hippohands.com/ (http://www.hippohands.com/)
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http://www.hippohands.com/ (http://www.hippohands.com/)
Strange, yet interesting
http://www.hippohands.com/products/c14-no-mirrors (http://www.hippohands.com/products/c14-no-mirrors)
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Hippo Hands is the single most effective hand-warming feature I have ever used, on any bike. Better than heated grips, better than any gloves alone.
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Thanks for the input. I ordered the hand guards today I'll see how that works then add to it from there.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=handlebar+muffs+for+motorcycles&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinqYXRuqvKAhWGVD4KHZCNDy8QsAQIWw&biw=1437&bih=711&dpr=2 (https://www.google.com/search?q=handlebar+muffs+for+motorcycles&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinqYXRuqvKAhWGVD4KHZCNDy8QsAQIWw&biw=1437&bih=711&dpr=2)
No doubt about it. Handlebar muffs let you wear much lighter gloves so you don't lose feel of controls, while keeping fingers toasty. And many brands are way less than $90.
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Getting the wind off of your hands worked great for me.
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Those are Motax brand air deflectors but they work the same as other brands.
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I bought a pair of "Firstgear Navigator" gloves in Colorado while on a road trip. They were supposed to be 4 season gloves but they're too warm to wear most of the time. I do wear them when it's cold out and they work great! The aren't bulky by any means and they do a great job keeping my hands warm when temps go below 30 degrees. Plus, they are really comfortable gloves! I have never had cold hands when riding in cold weather with these when combined with the heated grips! I have ridden with them in temps as low as 18 degrees and was totally fine! There is one review for these gloves on the Revzilla site and it's a poor review but I can tell you that the gloves are fantastic and I will completely disagree with the review in that they DO KEEP YOU WARM! The reviewer said they don't work below 40 degrees...his must have holes or something because they work great for me! Just so you know the story, I am affected by cold more so than most because of an accident years ago that took my left index finger and messed up my left thumb and both are severely affect by cold so I am a great resource when it comes to gloves and cold weather :thumbs:! I have my gloves customized after I buy them...I have the left index finger cut and sewn. Nothing worse than a glove finger "flopping around" while riding :o! BTW, I wear my summer gloves when it's 40 degrees out ::)!
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At those temps I can tell you that the air wings will not work. I have them. Heated grips will not work. I have them
Gerbing or Hippo is the only way to go. I would go with the hippo. Those are the bomb.
Big heavy insulated gloves make it harder to control the bike.
I have not tried these but they are supposed to be the newest thing out there. There are lipo type rechargeable battery glove skins but they dont last all day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92eNw-x2YkE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92eNw-x2YkE&feature=youtu.be)
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Strange, yet interesting
http://www.hippohands.com/products/c14-no-mirrors (http://www.hippohands.com/products/c14-no-mirrors)
freak show compared to heated gear
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freak show compared to heated gear
+1. Those are UGLY!
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freak show compared to heated gear
However, they work really, really well.
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I prefer a warm woman, but I've always been considered somewhat strange.
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I prefer a warm woman, but I've always been considered somewhat strange.
As opposed to one that is room temperature? Or to stick your hands in? I'm confused ???
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I prefer a warm woman, but I've always been considered somewhat strange.
Agreed but it's hard to get two of them to sit still long enough... ;)
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Minor details..
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I prefer a warm woman, but I've always been considered somewhat strange.
What would be the proper google search string for that?
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What would be the proper google search string for that?
strange warm woman ::)
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I prefer a warm woman, but I've always been considered somewhat strange.
I wouldn't call that strange. :chugbeer:
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Hippo Hands / generic handlebar muffs are so much more effective than any kind of heated gloves or grips...
Hippo Hands + ordinary leather ropers (heated grips off and wings removed for this test) are better - on my hands, on my commute - than Zero monster gauntlets + heated grips + wings. A LOT BETTER.
I started the ride with my medium winter gloves, but my hands were SWEATING. It was 20F, and my hands were sweating. I only had the leather ropers with me out of habit. Even those were almost too warm. I was impressed.
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These are them. Yeah, $15, shipped. Neoprene is heavy fabric, and definitely air / water tight.
My friends think they look dorky. I think my friends look COLD. Whtvr.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-It-Neoprene-Bar-Muffs-Motorcycle-ATV-Handlebar-Hand-Warmers-/191783075351?hash=item2ca7297e17:g:yYgAAOSwFqJWmB1s&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-It-Neoprene-Bar-Muffs-Motorcycle-ATV-Handlebar-Hand-Warmers-/191783075351?hash=item2ca7297e17:g:yYgAAOSwFqJWmB1s&vxp=mtr)
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Yep, dorky lookin'. Nuthin' warmer. I'll take comfort over fashion all day.
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y400/markak1245/IMG_0939_zpszanunh8d.jpg) (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/markak1245/media/IMG_0939_zpszanunh8d.jpg.html)
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If you want to keep your hands warm, keep your core warm. Use a heated vest (or jacket).
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Yep, dorky lookin'. Nuthin' warmer. I'll take comfort over fashion all day.
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y400/markak1245/IMG_0939_zpszanunh8d.jpg) (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/markak1245/media/IMG_0939_zpszanunh8d.jpg.html)
before the days of heated jacket liners and gloves, i'd have considered this solution
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+1
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before the days of heated jacket liners and gloves, i'd have considered this solution
I still like them. They are much more convenient for being able to simply jump on the bike and riding, around town and that sort of thing. I also prefer to have something that is less likely to fail, be prepared. As much as I like heated gear, if it were to fail 100 miles from home, without a backup you would be in serious trouble.
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motorcycle mitts | eBay
I bought a pair from Cal Sci and paid too much w/shipping. They are tight around switch gear but might work better on different bikes.They have a thin metal guard inside to keep them from pushing back -
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I also use Baker Wings that work well-
Air Wings Motorcycle Air Deflectors
and these -
http://www.rei.com/product/871653/outdoor-research-highcamp-3-finger-insulated-gloves-mens (http://www.rei.com/product/871653/outdoor-research-highcamp-3-finger-insulated-gloves-mens)
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These are them. Yeah, $15, shipped. Neoprene is heavy fabric, and definitely air / water tight.
My friends think they look dorky. I think my friends look COLD. Whtvr.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-It-Neoprene-Bar-Muffs-Motorcycle-ATV-Handlebar-Hand-Warmers-/191783075351?hash=item2ca7297e17:g:yYgAAOSwFqJWmB1s&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-It-Neoprene-Bar-Muffs-Motorcycle-ATV-Handlebar-Hand-Warmers-/191783075351?hash=item2ca7297e17:g:yYgAAOSwFqJWmB1s&vxp=mtr)
dat
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man
Any pics of these on the C14?
For those with these or similar items on it, when you have to remove your hand for something like adjusting your helmet, how easy is it put your hand back in it? I'm curious because while riding, with heated gloves I can move my hands on and off while doing adjustments, using my hand/arms for directions, etc easily. With these muff -type protections and riding, I'm wondering if I have to wiggle my hand thru which for me is a safety factor now and seconds count for braking/clutching.
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Any pics of these on the C14?
For those with these or similar items on it, when you have to remove your hand for something like adjusting your helmet, how easy is it put your hand back in it? I'm curious because while riding, with heated gloves I can move my hands on and off while doing adjustments, using my hand/arms for directions, etc easily. With these muff -type protections and riding, I'm wondering if I have to wiggle my hand thru which for me is a safety factor now and seconds count for braking/clutching.
I tried the Hippo Hands back when I was commuting to work in the dark. I found it very difficult to get my hand back in when it was dark and gave up on them. Not a problem in daylight.