Anyone using the TPX laser jammer?

[B.D.F.]

But that is just the detector, not the jammer part, is that correct?

Brian

Working great TWA! I fully recommend it! 

[ZG]

But that is just the detector, not the jammer part, is that correct?

Brian

Correct.

[ZG]

Do you think it has saved you from a ticket or 2?

Daily. 

[wally_games]

Detectors ok (possibly necessary), but I'm pretty sure that jammers are illegal in TX.

[B.D.F.]

Radar jammers are illegal everywhere in the US because the FCC controls radio broadcast and we (non LEO) cannot possibly get a license to broadcast in that band.

Laser on the other hand, is merely light and that is not regulated by any gummit agency.... at least so far. That said, quite a few states have specifically made laser emitters meant for and used to jam laser speed detectors illegal. If you go to a site that sells the jammers, there is a list of the states they cannot and will not ship to.

All of that said, I still think a significant problem is annoying the LEO that stops you because his / her laser either 1) will not show a speed at all (what the good jammers do) or 2) shows an 'error' (what the fair jammers do) when pointed at you (us). Even if it is done in a state where it is legal, methinks it would propel the LEO onward and upward to look for any..... irregularities, anywhere on the vehicle or the person riding (driving) it.

Here in southern New England, laser seems to have supplanted radar for most speed checking done by stopped LEO's. Moving, they still use radar but stopped, laser is the preferred tool apparently. I have no knowledge other than that is what I see them using on the side of the highway virtually every single time I see an LEO out hunting for lunch. 

Brian

Detectors ok (possibly necessary), but I'm pretty sure that jammers are illegal in TX.

[Rhino]

Daily. 

But how does a detector only help with laser? My understanding is that laser being very directional, you don't get a squawk until your specifically targeted. And then your toast. My passport 9500 detects laser but it is rare that I ever get a ping from laser. They just don't use it that much in Colorado and Texas yet.

[ZG]

But how does a detector only help with laser? My understanding is that laser being very directional, you don't get a squawk until your specifically targeted. And then your toast. My passport 9500 detects laser but it is rare that I ever get a ping from laser. They just don't use it that much in Colorado and Texas yet.

Same here in Oregon RN, most of the LEO's still drive around with their radar on in these parts too. 

[ZG]

Radar jammers are illegal everywhere in the US because the FCC controls radio broadcast and we (non LEO) cannot possibly get a license to broadcast in that band.

Laser on the other hand, is merely light and that is not regulated by any gummit agency.... at least so far. That said, quite a few states have specifically made laser emitters meant for and used to jam laser speed detectors illegal. If you go to a site that sells the jammers, there is a list of the states they cannot and will not ship to.

All of that said, I still think a significant problem is annoying the LEO that stops you because his / her laser either 1) will not show a speed at all (what the good jammers do) or 2) shows an 'error' (what the fair jammers do) when pointed at you (us). Even if it is done in a state where it is legal, methinks it would propel the LEO onward and upward to look for any..... irregularities, anywhere on the vehicle or the person riding (driving) it.

Here in southern New England, laser seems to have supplanted radar for most speed checking done by stopped LEO's. Moving, they still use radar but stopped, laser is the preferred tool apparently. I have no knowledge other than that is what I see them using on the side of the highway virtually every single time I see an LEO out hunting for lunch. 

Brian

Dark tinted windows, not using a hands free phone, and no front license plate on a car are also illegal (at least here), but yet I see all of those daily more than I can count... It's a risk for sure, but it really comes down to how bad a LEO want's to get you, which is probably somewhat based on your driving record after they run your plate, and if you're being a knucklehead or not, 85 in a residential riding a wheelie vs 85 on a highway in the middle of no-where... 

[B.D.F.]

I am only talking about a laser jammer, not any kind of detector.

Hey, I agree with you Jay but to me, there would be a big difference between detecting my speed detection equipment and jamming same. If I was an LEO (and I am not BTW) out soliciting 'donations' for speeding and had my laser fail to read, I would pull that vehicle (the vehicle that I was sighting when the readout..... didn't readout) over and have a chat with the driver. I would also walk around the vehicle at least once and check for anything out of compliance (within reasonable bounds though- let's not get ridiculous here).

Talk to an LEO and I believe you will find just the detectors annoy them. It is like we are 'cheating' when playing the game of speeding / catching speeders. I believe most of them would be much more annoyed if they though they had actually been blocked from taking the 'prize'.

Think of it like hunting: hunters take to the woods in the hope of 1) spotting game and 2) taking said game. The game, on the other hand, tries to avoid both of those things. They each use their tools, cleverness and wiles to try to outwit the other and "win the game". Hunters understand and accept that they may, and often will, come home empty handed. On the other side of the coin, taking a clean heart / lung shot at a deer, standing broadside to you at a distance almost too good to be true only to find the deer was projecting her image with a hologram..... well, now that would just make the hunter cranky. 

Brian

Dark tinted windows, not using a hands free phone, and no front license plate on a car are also illegal (at least here), but yet I see all of those daily more than I can count... It's a risk for sure, but it really comes down to how bad a LEO want's to get you, which is probably somewhat based on your driving record after they run your plate, and if you're being a knucklehead or not, 85 in a residential riding a wheelie vs 85 on a highway in the middle of no-where... 

[freebird6]

and all this talk of "hunting" begs the question.....why are they so obsessed with speed. Drove a hundred miles an hour all week long when I was in the UK. Speed did not kill anyone in those long lines of cars going the same speed nor did it kill the drivers giving way to the cars going that speed.

Every officer I have ever met talks about speed being unsafe. Brock yates pointed out the unsafe behaviour of many left lane bandits http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011/02/opinion-left-lane-bandits-causing-congestion/ years back BEFORE Cell phones. I remember getting pulled over in 1979 for having an earphone from a transistor radio in my ear in Lisle IL. Cop said anything in my ear was unsafe....wonder what he thinks now that Bluetooth is here to stay.

Speed is not unsafe. If they really wanted to fill their coffers AND make the roads safer forget speed up to 20 mph over as the NHSTA already published several articles saying that speeds in America are set artificially low on most roads and INSTEAD pass a hands free law and enforce it. Enforce the left lane and other distracted behaviours. Enforce the aftermarket taillights that are blacked out and can't be seen. Enforce cars with trailer lights not hooked up. Enforce Deisel truck that delight in spewing black smoke effectively limiting vision of following cars while laughing at the cloud behind them

Plenty of laws on the books to enforce that would inevitably lead to more arrests for illicit activity than pulling over speeders.....but then the insurance industry could not raise rates as easily...... No doubt in my mind that enforcing the other stuff would clean up the roads and result in much safer travel for all

[Rhino]

I am only talking about a laser jammer, not any kind of detector.

Hey, I agree with you Jay but to me, there would be a big difference between detecting my speed detection equipment and jamming same. If I was an LEO (and I am not BTW) out soliciting 'donations' for speeding and had my laser fail to read, I would pull that vehicle (the vehicle that I was sighting when the readout..... didn't readout) over and have a chat with the driver. I would also walk around the vehicle at least once and check for anything out of compliance (within reasonable bounds though- let's not get ridiculous here).

Talk to an LEO and I believe you will find just the detectors annoy them. It is like we are 'cheating' when playing the game of speeding / catching speeders. I believe most of them would be much more annoyed if they though they had actually been blocked from taking the 'prize'.

Think of it like hunting: hunters take to the woods in the hope of 1) spotting game and 2) taking said game. The game, on the other hand, tries to avoid both of those things. They each use their tools, cleverness and wiles to try to outwit the other and "win the game". Hunters understand and accept that they may, and often will, come home empty handed. On the other side of the coin, taking a clean heart / lung shot at a deer, standing broadside to you at a distance almost too good to be true only to find the deer was projecting her image with a hologram..... well, now that would just make the hunter cranky. 

Brian

If that ever happens I will definitely give up hunting deer. Then I'd want to have a conversation about hologram's and such with said deer.

[B.D.F.]

Exactly my point because let's face it, there is little difference between [meat] hunters (Easy Boys!) and [speeding vehicle] hunters. Both want the game played according to the rules, imaginary or not.

Brian

If that ever happens I will definitely give up hunting deer. Then I'd want to have a conversation about hologram's and such with said deer.

[twowheeladdict]

I believe that "following too closely" is the real culprit in many daily wrecks.  If people actually drove in the right lane except to pass and when they did move to the left lane to pass, actually speed up to complete the pass, the interstates would be a lot safer.

Glad to see that Texas upped the limits on their roads in the middle of nowhere. 

I also think that the speed limits in traffic prone locations should be adjusted based on the time of day and/or day of the week. 

Most LEOs I have talked with will allow up to 15 over the limit unless they are assigned a special duty at a location because of complaints.  Then they write ticket after ticket.

My little country road with no one on it is cruised by a state trooper on a regular basis.  Even though there are sections with open fields the entire road is 45 mph.  Both my wife and I have been pulled over and we were not being 'unsafe'.  Of course I was the only one who got a ticket.  Blond and breasts work wonders on male LEOs.  LOL!

The Concours is just too easy to speed without realizing it.  Having some type of alert will be nice.  Going to order that detector soon.  Not going to try the laser jammer.  I'll just try and make sure I am not in the lead.

[gPink]

Blond and breasts work wonders on male LEOs.  LOL!

Bald and moobs don't cut it? 

[twowheeladdict]

Blond and breasts work wonders on male LEOs.  LOL!

Bald and moobs don't cut it? 

Out of that entire rant, that is all you took away?         

[gPink]

 

[Rhino]

I believe that "following too closely" is the real culprit in many daily wrecks.  If people actually drove in the right lane except to pass and when they did move to the left lane to pass, actually speed up to complete the pass, the interstates would be a lot safer.

Glad to see that Texas upped the limits on their roads in the middle of nowhere. 

I also think that the speed limits in traffic prone locations should be adjusted based on the time of day and/or day of the week. 

Most LEOs I have talked with will allow up to 15 over the limit unless they are assigned a special duty at a location because of complaints.  Then they write ticket after ticket.

My little country road with no one on it is cruised by a state trooper on a regular basis.  Even though there are sections with open fields the entire road is 45 mph.  Both my wife and I have been pulled over and we were not being 'unsafe'.  Of course I was the only one who got a ticket.  Blond and breasts work wonders on male LEOs.  LOL!

The Concours is just too easy to speed without realizing it.  Having some type of alert will be nice.  Going to order that detector soon.  Not going to try the laser jammer.  I'll just try and make sure I am not in the lead.

What you have described is exactly where my Passport 9500 works best.

[ZG]

What you have described is exactly where my Passport 9500 works best.

But the TPX 2.0 is designed specifically for a motorcycle and is shock proof and water proof, I use to run an escort radar detector but found the removing it in rain to be a pain in the a$$ here in the moist PNW, I love being able to just run this TPX on the bike no matter what the conditions are doing and the LED warning light is bright as all getup, no problem at all with it not catching my attention even in bright sunshine. 

[Gsun]

I was just on the road for a week and my TPX saved me once. Other than that, I only saw two LEO's in 2500 miles! And they were not trapping speeders.

[Rhino]

But the TPX 2.0 is designed specifically for a motorcycle and is shock proof and water proof, I use to run an escort radar detector but found the removing it in rain to be a pain in the a$$ here in the moist PNW, I love being able to just run this TPX on the bike no matter what the conditions are doing and the LED warning light is bright as all getup, no problem at all with it not catching my attention even in bright sunshine. 

+1 and +1 It works for me in CO and TX cuz we don't get nearly as much rain as you do. I'm using a Marc Parnes visual alert LED. Makes all the difference, immediately catches my eye and alerts me to slow down. What I really want is a more discreet installation. Right now it's just sitting up on top of the front brake reservoir.