Kawasaki Concours Forum

The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: lonekazoo on November 05, 2015, 10:23:31 PM

Title: Tell me about your experience with using a "smart" power distribution unit
Post by: lonekazoo on November 05, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
I've recently picked up some used heated gear (jacket liner and gloves) that came without a controller.  I'd like to set my wife up with a set as well.  I've also added to the bike carbon-fiber heated seat pads, a GPS, cell phone charger, XM radio, etc.  Obviously I'm to the point of needing to add a fuseblock of some kind to handle the extra power requirements.

In the process of looking for a decent heat controller for my new gear, and a fuseblock, I stumbled upon a couple of bluetooth controlled power distribution units that have built in PWM capability on the outputs for heated gear and dimming external lighting.  One of them even has a temp probe that allows you to program settings so that your heated gear will automatically turn on to a certain setting at a certain ambient outside temperature.  It can also turn on/off lighting according to sunrise and sunset, and several other features.  Does anyone have any experience with these things?

The two PDU's I've found (and there may be other ones out there) are the "Motobrain" and the "Neutrino Black Box".

In theory it sounds really cool to have a phone or tablet set up to control the outputs, but in reality it might not be practical (gloves, rain, etc).  Both of them, however, appear to work fine without the phone nearby.  The appeal for me right now is that the cost I would save at this point from not having to buy a set of dual controllers would almost pay for one of thesePDU's.

I like the Motobrain for it's method of attaching outputs, but check out this cool promo video on the Neutrino:

http://www.arborealsystems.com/Arboreal_Systems/Video_Intro.html (http://www.arborealsystems.com/Arboreal_Systems/Video_Intro.html)

Anyone using one of these smart PDUs (and specifically one with PWM capability) on their C14 and care to share their experiences?  Should I stick with a standard fuseblock and conventional controllers? 

I've read a bit about them on advrider, but nothing specific to the C14.

Thanks,

George
Title: Re: Tell me about your experience with using a "smart" power distribution unit
Post by: mikeb2411 on November 16, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
I've recently picked up some used heated gear (jacket liner and gloves) that came without a controller.  I'd like to set my wife up with a set as well.  I've also added to the bike carbon-fiber heated seat pads, a GPS, cell phone charger, XM radio, etc.  Obviously I'm to the point of needing to add a fuseblock of some kind to handle the extra power requirements.

In the process of looking for a decent heat controller for my new gear, and a fuseblock, I stumbled upon a couple of bluetooth controlled power distribution units that have built in PWM capability on the outputs for heated gear and dimming external lighting.  One of them even has a temp probe that allows you to program settings so that your heated gear will automatically turn on to a certain setting at a certain ambient outside temperature.  It can also turn on/off lighting according to sunrise and sunset, and several other features.  Does anyone have any experience with these things?

The two PDU's I've found (and there may be other ones out there) are the "Motobrain" and the "Neutrino Black Box".

In theory it sounds really cool to have a phone or tablet set up to control the outputs, but in reality it might not be practical (gloves, rain, etc).  Both of them, however, appear to work fine without the phone nearby.  The appeal for me right now is that the cost I would save at this point from not having to buy a set of dual controllers would almost pay for one of thesePDU's.

I like the Motobrain for it's method of attaching outputs, but check out this cool promo video on the Neutrino:

http://www.arborealsystems.com/Arboreal_Systems/Video_Intro.html (http://www.arborealsystems.com/Arboreal_Systems/Video_Intro.html)

Anyone using one of these smart PDUs (and specifically one with PWM capability) on their C14 and care to share their experiences?  Should I stick with a standard fuseblock and conventional controllers? 

I've read a bit about them on advrider, but nothing specific to the C14.

Thanks,

George

I just put this on my bike this weekend. Install took a while because I rerouted wires and soldered all connections. Finding a spot uner the seat was difficult too but figured it our eventually. I also added a Terminal Block for all my grounds. The PDM is solid state so ne fuses, more like a breaker box. The unit is programmable and allows you to increase/decrease the Amp rating for each circuit. Everything was nice and clean after the install. All wires that were on my battery are gone and under my seat now. I'm very happy with the outcome.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/mikeb2411/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/20151115_131535_zpsdzwbellu.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/mikeb2411/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/20151115_131535_zpsdzwbellu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tell me about your experience with using a "smart" power distribution unit
Post by: RBX QB on November 16, 2015, 09:44:34 AM
... and the "Neutrino Black Box".
...


Just found this write-up on the Neutrino you listed... might be worth a read: http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/neutrino-black-box-v2-review/ (http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/neutrino-black-box-v2-review/)
Title: Re: Tell me about your experience with using a "smart" power distribution unit
Post by: mikeb2411 on November 16, 2015, 10:08:21 AM

Just found this write-up on the Neutrino you listed... might be worth a read: http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/neutrino-black-box-v2-review/ (http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/neutrino-black-box-v2-review/)

I read it buyt couldn't pay the $300. I had a hard enough time forking out the $200 for the PDM. I will do something like the Neutrino for my next bike and I will definitely be doing that because it makes wiring up accessories so much nicer!

Mike
Title: Re: Tell me about your experience with using a "smart" power distribution unit
Post by: RBX QB on November 16, 2015, 12:35:56 PM
I read it buyt couldn't pay the $300. I had a hard enough time forking out the $200 for the PDM. ...
'

Yeah... I just use a Fuzeblock. I don't need anything smarter than me on my bike (and a Fuzeblock is even close to being smarter than me).
Title: Re: Tell me about your experience with using a "smart" power distribution unit
Post by: Wandrng on November 16, 2015, 12:46:40 PM
+1 Fuzeblocks  http://www.fuzeblocks.com/ (http://www.fuzeblocks.com/)