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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: Rhino on September 03, 2015, 08:00:52 AM
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I know people who do this. I never have because I am worried about splashing gas on myself. This video gives me a new reason not to do it.
http://youtu.be/SohoobuWr9c (http://youtu.be/SohoobuWr9c)
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:yikes:
I always get off the bike.
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x2. Always off the bike and put it on the centerstand to get it full.
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I've seen bike vent out fuel from the cap when overfilled and parked in the sun. So I only fill to the top if I don't plan on stopping for awhile. I leave my helmet on, but take my gloves off. And I'm always off the bike.
Oh yeah, I always use my stove knob key. 8)
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Yes, sitting on the bike with both feet down and I fill just to the bottom of the filler neck.
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I happen to like my reproductive parts, and I don't like burns, so I always get off the bike, you may think you are getting more fuel in by putting it on the center stand or straddling the bike as opposed to the side stand, its minimal at best. The offset filler hole on my Triumph lets me fill it to the top, HD and others has been doing it for years.
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Mama always told me I'd better wear clean underwear every day just in case. I don't think she ever envisioned this.
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very strang this is here today, last night I stopped to pick up smokes at my corner station, and watched a fellow pull up on his bike, stick the stand down, and proceded to fill the bike while sitting, I thought "that ain't too smart", as I would never do this...
when I came back out the door, I saw him over fill while clicking the pump lever to get that last teaspoon.... I had to chuckle as he then tried to get off the bike while holding the nozzle, and he banged it on his tank pretty stoutly because he lost his balance.... then slammed the nozzle into the pump, walked over and got paper towles and the windshield squeegee, and washed the tank down.... as I pulled out I gave him a thumbs up, nice job.... and a head nod...
I don't think he was amused.
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Yes, sitting on the bike with both feet down and I fill just to the bottom of the filler neck.
+1
Been working for me 109,000+ miles on this bike, and trillions of more miles on others. Now I'll be worried about my privates ;D
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No.
I've seen bike vent out fuel from the cap when overfilled and parked in the sun. So I only fill to the top if I don't plan on stopping for awhile. I leave my helmet on, but take my gloves off. And I'm always off the bike.
Oh yeah, I always use my stove knob key. 8)
:yikes:
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Sitting on the bike both feet down as well. Haven't burnt anything in 30 yrs. I have a feeling that video has more to do with user error....
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very strang this is here today, last night I stopped to pick up smokes at my corner station, and watched a fellow pull up on his bike, stick the stand down, and proceded to fill the bike while sitting, I thought "that ain't too smart", as I would never do this...
when I came back out the door, I saw him over fill while clicking the pump lever to get that last teaspoon.... I had to chuckle as he then tried to get off the bike while holding the nozzle, and he banged it on his tank pretty stoutly because he lost his balance.... then slammed the nozzle into the pump, walked over and got paper towles and the windshield squeegee, and washed the tank down.... as I pulled out I gave him a thumbs up, nice job.... and a head nod...
I don't think he was amused.
That's what I worry about, spilling gas on myself then smelling like gas the rest of the day and bringing jeans home to momma smelling like gas (she don't like that). Never thought about a fire. I think I'll continue the practice of getting off the bike.
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Sitting on the bike both feet down as well. Haven't burnt anything in 30 yrs. I have a feeling that video has more to do with user error....
No doubt. But I know I'm prone to error... at times.
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When I am rolling on, I fill while straddling the bike and immediately ride off. I don't overfill. If I am taking a break, I do that first and then fill up before I head out
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Yes, sitting on the bike with both feet down and I fill just to the bottom of the filler neck.
This.
Looks like this guy left his bike running.
The whole static think is a myth.
I guess can understand not wanting to splash gas on yourself, bit have yet to, so...
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I fuel my bikes while sitting on them mostly because the few times when I have fueled my bikes when sitting on someone else's bike, they seem to get annoyed....
Yep, sit on the bike, put bike on sidestand and proceed to get as much fuel in the tank as I possible can. I do not spill fuel on the outside of the tank as that is not desirable. All aspects of this are under my control and so I just do not spill but I do get the tank full (a C-14 tank will hold over 6.0 gallons, not bad for a 5.8 gallon tank at all IMO). When I am in a hurry, such as trying to get across America, I leave the engine running, sit on the bike an fuel it and while fueling, I reset tripmeter 'A' and the fuel economy readout, both of which require the ignition be left on to accomplish.
I think the key to this whole thing is 1) maintaining control and 2) being careful and prudent while getting the job done... not entirely unlike prom night (Easy Boys!). :rotflmao:
But then again, nothing wrong with getting off the bike either and not even trying to fill it while sitting on it.... not unlike an early prom night. ;) Whatever 'floats your boat' works for me.
Brian
I know people who do this. I never have because I am worried about splashing gas on myself. This video gives me a new reason not to do it.
http://youtu.be/SohoobuWr9c (http://youtu.be/SohoobuWr9c)
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This.
Looks like this guy left his bike running.
The whole static think is a myth.
I guess can understand not wanting to splash gas on yourself, bit have yet to, so...
No, it isn't.
http://www.cyberphysics.co.uk/topics/electricity/static/static_dangers.htm (http://www.cyberphysics.co.uk/topics/electricity/static/static_dangers.htm)
http://www.esdjournal.com/static/Static_Fires.pdf (http://www.esdjournal.com/static/Static_Fires.pdf)
http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/consumer-information/use-energy-safely/staying-safe-pump (http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/consumer-information/use-energy-safely/staying-safe-pump)
If it was, the aviation companies I worked for would not have spent the time and money training us in safe fueling practices, the U.S. gov't would not have spent taxpayer's money training me in ESD-safe procedures for electronic components and flammable substances, and certifying me for explosives handling. I spend a large part of each day wearing my ESD grounding strap while doing my job.
Electro-static discharge is a very real danger around flammable substances and things that can go BOOM. If you want to take that risk yourself, then that's your right. But it's not a good idea to go on a forum and tell others that it's a myth. Static discharge is very real, and although it rarely causes a problem, it certainly CAN, and when you least expect it.
Personally, I will do everything I can to avoid waking up in the burn ward with a piece of someone else's butt-skin grafted onto my face.
Be safe.
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As the story goes.... Curtis LeMay was walking up to a fully fueled and armed B-17 when some kid with a stripe on his arm stopped him and told him (LeMay) he could not go to the plane with a lit cigar. LeMay asked why not? The kid stammered 'because of all the gas- it might catch on fire'. LeMay growled "It wouldn't Dare!" and proceeded on his way to the plane and Germany.
;D ;D
Brian
No, it isn't.
http://www.cyberphysics.co.uk/topics/electricity/static/static_dangers.htm (http://www.cyberphysics.co.uk/topics/electricity/static/static_dangers.htm)
http://www.esdjournal.com/static/Static_Fires.pdf (http://www.esdjournal.com/static/Static_Fires.pdf)
http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/consumer-information/use-energy-safely/staying-safe-pump (http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/consumer-information/use-energy-safely/staying-safe-pump)
If it was, the aviation companies I worked for would not have spent the time and money training us in safe fueling practices, the U.S. gov't would not have spent taxpayer's money training me in ESD-safe procedures for electronic components and flammable substances, and certifying me for explosives handling. I spend a large part of each day wearing my ESD grounding strap while doing my job.
Electro-static discharge is a very real danger around flammable substances and things that can go BOOM. If you want to take that risk yourself, then that's your right. But it's not a good idea to go on a forum and tell others that it's a myth. Static discharge is very real, and although it rarely causes a problem, it certainly CAN, and when you least expect it.
Personally, I will do everything I can to avoid waking up in the burn ward with a piece of someone else's butt-skin grafted onto my face.
Be safe.
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Only takes once. Ironic how many wear AGATT and have never been in a crash but put themselves into a very dangerous situation on purpose numerous times a week without a thought and argue how they've never had a problem because they know how to be safe and can remember all the safe things every time, yet, many here also argue how they could never remember to turn off a manual fuel tap. How can you say putting a nozzle that flows flammable liquid out at gallons per minute, inches from your lap, inches from a red hot motor, all the while clothed in gear that for some makes us a bit less mobile and agile? Its a good habit and a safe practice to get off the bike while refueling.
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A great big NOOOOOO! Besides, it's a good time to stretch your legs, hit the head, or drink some fluids.
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As the story goes.... Curtis LeMay was walking up to a fully fueled and armed B-17 when some kid with a stripe on his arm stopped him and told him (LeMay) he could not go to the plane with a lit cigar. LeMay asked why not? The kid stammered 'because of all the gas- it might catch on fire'. LeMay growled "It wouldn't Dare!" and proceeded on his way to the plane and Germany.
;D ;D
Brian
For bringing up my personal hero and the man that scared the :censored: out the Russians and everyone else, I :salute: . Most everyday people have no idea what that man was about and many that do, have it all wrong. The greatest AF general that ever lived...
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I'm rather surprised at some of the names I see here that fuel up with the hose between their legs. ;) They are usually the first ones to raise a voice for safety in most matters. Oh well, to each their own. I'd never fuel up while sitting on the bike. Seems foolish imho. Then again I do some pretty foolish things in other areas but those things usually are fun so I feel it's justified. I guess the guys here feel they are saving time and/or effort by fueling while sitting. I don't see it. I know if the government got involved there'd be a law against it. Shudder. Let's not let that happen.
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Fuel for the fire...
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp (http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp)
http://youtu.be/tuZxFL9cGkI (http://youtu.be/tuZxFL9cGkI)
She got out, she got back in, she got out again with her blue fuzzy sweater......then Kaboom! If she would have been wearing a leather open vest and open back leather chaps (no pants of course). This would NOT have happened.
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Sure sounds logical- you are making me think it would be wise to get as far away from the situation as humanly possible! Say, how much distance do you put between yourself and the 'nozzle that flows flammable liquid out at gallons per minute'?
:rotflmao:
As I said, whatever 'floats anyone's boat' works for me. I would certainly agree that not being around any flammable substances would be safer but it seems that most of us have to 1) hold that nasty, scary fuel nozzle whether we sit on the bike or not and 2) once the tank is full, we carefully place the entire thing between our legs and ignite a device (the engine) below said tank that throws electrical sparks in the tens of thousands of volts.... all on purpose.
OFFTOPIC: By the way Dave, looking at using both floor as well as roof trusses in a current project. As we all know, they become involved and weakened in a internal (Easy Boys!) fire much more easily than sawn lumber.... so I am looking into a sprinkler system as well. My prime thought is to <perhaps> not have a fireman fall through the roof should the building be involved in a fire in the future (no matter who actually owns the house at the time), and perhaps save a little kid who might live here in the future. See, always looking out for PRACTICAL, REASONABLE and PRUDENT avenues to pursue safety. And still not one bit worried about the potential, raging Ebola epidemic that could start in the US anytime.... last year. ;) ;D
Brian
Only takes once. Ironic how many wear AGATT and have never been in a crash but put themselves into a very dangerous situation on purpose numerous times a week without a thought and argue how they've never had a problem because they know how to be safe and can remember all the safe things every time, yet, many here also argue how they could never remember to turn off a manual fuel tap. How can you say putting a nozzle that flows flammable liquid out at gallons per minute, inches from your lap, inches from a red hot motor, all the while clothed in gear that for some makes us a bit less mobile and agile? Its a good habit and a safe practice to get off the bike while refueling.
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Not sure who exactly you are speaking about but speaking for myself, I do everything with a hose between my legs.... figuratively speaking, of course (Easy Boys! especially any boys who are undressing me with their eyes!).
I can see this topic is going to go the way of the hardliners getting their knickers in a twist. Please allow me to again say that I could not care less what anyone else does regarding fueling vehicles and do not have any strong opinion on the matter either way. I am equally unconcerned about the remote possibility of having my proverbial hose get out of control, setting my self on fire (I believe the term is "self immolation"), catching Ebola from my neighbor or being killed by a large ball of frozen feces that may drop out of a commercial airliner and hit me. Hey, it could all happen and I say kudos to all who are being careful to avoid any or all of those things.
;) ;D
And if we are really looking for something to terrorize ourselves with, how about 'bucket drownings'? The ongoing situation that no one seems to want to address. Could it be a conspiracy by the manufacturers of buckets? The manufacturers of hydrogen dioxide? Hmmmm.
"In Home Danger: CPSC Warns of Children Drowning in Bathtubs, Bath Seats and Buckets More Than 400 Deaths Estimated Over a Five-Year Period."
Source: http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Newsroom/News-Releases/2012/In-Home-Danger-CPSC-Warns-of-Children-Drowning-in-Bathtubs-Bath-Seats-and-Buckets-More-than-400-deaths-estimated-over-a-five-year-period/ (http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Newsroom/News-Releases/2012/In-Home-Danger-CPSC-Warns-of-Children-Drowning-in-Bathtubs-Bath-Seats-and-Buckets-More-than-400-deaths-estimated-over-a-five-year-period/)
Brian (who has destroyed all containers within reach that are larger than a condom, for safety's sake. By that I mean I destroyed the containers for safety. Of course condoms are for safety too but not that kind. Although I suppose if one pulled a condom over one's head, one could suffocate.... that tears it, I am now dedicated to destroying all condoms too, in the name of safety. But not that kind of safety. Of course. )
I'm rather surprised at some of the names I see here that fuel up with the hose between their legs. ;) They are usually the first ones to raise a voice for safety in most matters. Oh well, to each their own. I'd never fuel up while sitting on the bike. Seems foolish imho. Then again I do some pretty foolish things in other areas but those things usually are fun so I feel it's justified. I guess the guys here feel they are saving time and/or effort by fueling while sitting. I don't see it. I know if the government got involved there'd be a law against it. Shudder. Let's not let that happen.
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Got out, got in, got out, got in..... Kaboom! And not an 'Easy Boys' anywhere to be seen. Shame on you, Virginia 'Unsafe' Jim!
Brian
Fuel for the fire...
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp (http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp)
http://youtu.be/tuZxFL9cGkI (http://youtu.be/tuZxFL9cGkI)
She got out, she got back in, she got out again with her blue fuzzy sweater......then Kaboom! If she would have been wearing a leather open vest and open back leather chaps (no pants of course). This would NOT have happened.
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I kinda like the blue fuzzy sweater :P
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One fine really hot calm day while fueling up the old motorhome we were on vacation with and pondering the sign which read something to the effect of: "All pilot lights and self igniting devices must be TURNED OFF before fueling" I glanced over to the guy across on the other side of the pump island and the vapors coming out of the fill pipe of his unit (Easy Boys) was so plainly visable in air and how they beautifully wisped thru the air. Drifting right past his obviously burning propane gas waterheater exhaust. I was just waiting to be consumed by the ensuing inferno, which by some miracle didn't happen. Probably because the flame was already burning, not lighting. Scarry! Couldn't get out of there soon enough. Vapors and sparks, it doesn't take much. Liquid fuel is much more forgiving.
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I kinda like the blue fuzzy sweater :P
Yes. Nice, but thinking about the open leather vest and chaps sort of makes for a fuzzy feeling, too.
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Ok, if you want to compare an enclosed ignition system to expanding vapors pouring down the side of a bike and static electricity and hot pipes and engine, ok, I get paid whether you die or not, makes no difference to me. Like you said, what do I care, job security. Only takes once, like Ebola, only takes once. BTW, every law, every safety procedure, every policy, every ordinance ever made, passed, voted on or enacted is aimed at the lowest common denominator, you know that, so when you talk about all the things you make sure you do in the form of safety because you know what to do or how to do it, doesn't mean everyone will do it that way or even do it anyway. I wouldn't put a residential sprinkler system in your house to protect firefighters, unless your house is the size of a commercial warehouse and contains millions of dollars of items and is multi level. Spend the money on stick construction as opposed to trusses.
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Sounds like this needs to be discussed by those master debators that we know and love... Insert filling up while on the bike for high beams..
http://youtu.be/ld4tIG_PAdo (http://youtu.be/ld4tIG_PAdo)
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WAY OFFTOPIC: No can do on the stick construction- too many limitations in the way but basically it comes down to the ability to span 24' and 32' respectively with one member (Easy Boys! and no, no one has a member that is that long either). So my choices are basically trusses (roof, floor), LVL plates (floor only) or i- joists (floor only). Having trouble with the cantilever aspect of the i- joist so most likely to go truss in the floor. LVLs will not work as I cannot cut them for plumbing / electrical component passage. I- joists I can cut and trusses are already full of holes.
As far as the sprinkler system, waiting on the word on that but apparently there are no residential sprinkler system 'rules' here regarding testing, certifying etc. So once initially installed, the maintenance cost is effectively zero. And as I said, maybe, just maybe, it <may> make a difference to one or more people down the road ("my" people, the fire dept. people or people I do not even know who own this house in 50 years, makes no difference). I just cannot believe that a given structure without a sprinkler system is as safe, relatively speaking, as the identical structure with a sprinkler system.
BTW, I checked into retarding fire on trusses and found fascinating information about chemically spraying them in the past. It worked well for fire resistance but as it was a form of salt, it corroded all the fasteners used in the trusses. :yikes: Score that one a loser.
Back ONTOPIC: Not to worry folks, Ebola and gasoline bursting into flame pale in comparison to heart disease and cancer, and who does not enjoy a good steak (a root cause of both)? Uhmmmm, now I am thinking about taking a Porterhouse down to the gas station, on my bike and gnawing and fueling all at once....
Brian
Ok, if you want to compare an enclosed ignition system to expanding vapors pouring down the side of a bike and static electricity and hot pipes and engine, ok, I get paid whether you die or not, makes no difference to me. Like you said, what do I care, job security. Only takes once, like Ebola, only takes once. BTW, every law, every safety procedure, every policy, every ordinance ever made, passed, voted on or enacted is aimed at the lowest common denominator, you know that, so when you talk about all the things you make sure you do in the form of safety because you know what to do or how to do it, doesn't mean everyone will do it that way or even do it anyway. I wouldn't put a residential sprinkler system in your house to protect firefighters, unless your house is the size of a commercial warehouse and contains millions of dollars of items and is multi level. Spend the money on stick construction as opposed to trusses.
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Pictures please..
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Squirrel on a stick and a beer would pair with a gasoline fire better than a steak I think.
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Happy fueling, I get paid next week. ;D
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Thank you. And I wish you the very best with your stipend.
;D
Brian
Happy fueling, I get paid next week. ;D
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Sounds like the Government needs to pass another law to protect us. Maybe they should require full service fuel stations across the country. Then we can take our break and get a snack while they fill our tanks for us.
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Sounds like the Government needs to pass another law to protect us. Maybe they should require full service fuel stations across the country. Then we can take our break and get a snack while they fill our tanks for us.
New Jersey is like that. The attendants have to pump your gas. Even there I won't let them near the bike. They just hand me the nozzle and let me fill it.
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BTW, I checked into retarding fire on trusses and found fascinating information about chemically spraying them in the past. It worked well for fire resistance but as it was a form of salt, it corroded all the fasteners used in the trusses. :yikes: Score that one a loser.
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I was a machinist in a previous life, worked on automatic screw machines (Easy Boys) called Carlton Screw machine Products (Easy Boys), located on Bush Lake Road (Easy Boys). I was told a story about an insurance sales droid mentioning that building/content insurance would be cheaper (easy boys) if the building was sprinklered (easy boys). Owner relayed a story about a machine shop (easy boys) that did have sprinklers... Fire started, sprinklers went off, building (easy boys) burned to the ground. Back in the day (easy boys), oil was used as a coolant and cutting fluid. Like 100 gallons in an open sump. Do the math (easy boys).
Static discharge when fueling is a real issue, though pretty well mitigated now. Tires are (were) the insulator, they now have carbon black (a modest conductor) in them. The fuel hoses (easy boys) have a metal spiral insert that does double/triple duty. This is all well and good for dissipating static charges prior to fueling.
But think about this. The motion of fuel through a hose generates a static charge. Not a big deal (mostly), as the hose is grounded, so is the car/motorcycle. But what about the air gap between the falling fuel and the metal tank? *Even if* the tank is grounded.
I bring this up as some of you know I'm building a plane. A fiberglass plane, with fiberglass fuel tanks in fiberglass wings. Fiberglass is an insulator, so is fuel. Pumping fuel into the tanks generates a static charge. How do I ground my air frame?
Rick (Easy boys)
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But think about this. The motion of fuel through a hose generates a static charge. Not a big deal (mostly), as the hose is grounded, so is the car/motorcycle. But what about the air gap between the falling fuel and the metal tank? *Even if* the tank is grounded.
Rick (Easy boys)
I always touch the fuel nozzle to the tank while filling.
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I kinda like the blue fuzzy sweater :P
Those soft fuzzy sweaters, so magical to touch...
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New Jersey is like that. The attendants have to pump your gas. Even there I won't let them near the bike. They just hand me the nozzle and let me fill it.
Did the SEIU organize the pump jockeys in NJ?
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Did the SEIU organize the pump jockeys in NJ?
LOL... Not that I know of. This is more a political thing I think. IDK for sure I live in NY. We can pump our own here!
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Already the law in NJ and I believe, Oregon. Only attendants can fill a vehicle with fuel, which by default makes them 'full service' I guess.
The whole thing kinda' falls down regarding motorcycles though as the attendant will not attempt to fuel a motorcycle but rather just turns the pump on and hands the nozzle to the rider (Easy Boys! Not that nozzle.... at least as far as I know, usually). And the attendants in New Jersey will happily hand you the nozzle while you sit on the bike....
Brian
Sounds like the Government needs to pass another law to protect us. Maybe they should require full service fuel stations across the country. Then we can take our break and get a snack while they fill our tanks for us.
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I was a machinist in a previous life, worked on automatic screw machines (Easy Boys) called Carlton Screw machine Products (Easy Boys), located on Bush Lake Road (Easy Boys). I was told a story about an insurance sales droid mentioning that building/content insurance would be cheaper (easy boys) if the building was sprinklered (easy boys). Owner relayed a story about a machine shop (easy boys) that did have sprinklers... Fire started, sprinklers went off, building (easy boys) burned to the ground. Back in the day (easy boys), oil was used as a coolant and cutting fluid. Like 100 gallons in an open sump. Do the math (easy boys).
Static discharge when fueling is a real issue, though pretty well mitigated now. Tires are (were) the insulator, they now have carbon black (a modest conductor) in them. The fuel hoses (easy boys) have a metal spiral insert that does double/triple duty. This is all well and good for dissipating static charges prior to fueling.
But think about this. The motion of fuel through a hose generates a static charge. Not a big deal (mostly), as the hose is grounded, so is the car/motorcycle. But what about the air gap between the falling fuel and the metal tank? *Even if* the tank is grounded.
I bring this up as some of you know I'm building a plane. A fiberglass plane, with fiberglass fuel tanks in fiberglass wings. Fiberglass is an insulator, so is fuel. Pumping fuel into the tanks generates a static charge. How do I ground my air frame?
Rick (Easy boys)
If your plane is a kit, there should be instructions regarding that placement of grounding/bonding straps where needed. If not, suggest contacting the EAA is some fashion, there are a lot of people in that organization with knowledge that far exceeds what you'll find here. The FAA may have some guidelines, but I think even they lag behind what you might find at the EAA. Most of what I worked on in general aviation was aluminum structure, typical factory-built stuff (except for the wood/fabric dinosaurs). The last company I worked for was just starting to get some fiberglass/carbon fiber aircraft for their flight school when I left the game, so I never really worked on them much. Fiberglass/composite cowlings, fairings, wingtips, etc., normally have some sort of bonding strap that will conduct away lightning so as to prevent the otherwise high resistance from stating a fire, and to help conduct away also the static charges that occur just by moving rapidly through the air. Many airplanes, even down to small Cessnas and Pipers, etc,. have static wicks mounted on the wings, stabilizers, and control surfaces to help discharge it in flight. Bigger ones have bigger and more numerous wicks. A big aircraft like commercial airliners can build up humongous static charges that could literally blow a hole in the structure and fry a lot of electronics if allowed to build up until it sparked off. It needs to bleed away slowly, which is what the static wicks do. Metal fuel lines are normally bonded/grounded to the metal structure with small ground wires, even in metal airplanes, again, for lightning protection.
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Already the law in NJ and I believe, Oregon. Only attendants can fill a vehicle with fuel, which by default makes them 'full service' I guess.
The whole thing kinda' falls down regarding motorcycles though as the attendant will not attempt to fuel a motorcycle but rather just turns the pump on and hands the nozzle to the rider (Easy Boys! Not that nozzle.... at least as far as I know, usually). And the attendants in New Jersey will happily hand you the nozzle while you sit on the bike....
Brian
I was in Oregon last year and found this out by surprise when they wouldn't let me fill my rental car. Really? I do not believe these laws have anything to do with safety but is in fact a "works" program.
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Back in 1995 I was roaring through Stage Gulch, Oregon at about 2 or 3 in the morning, heading home to my Olympic Peninsula. I stopped for fuel at a truck stop, got out, and, without thinking, started pumping my own gas into my Toyota truck. Some kid in a plaid shirt and jeans runs up and grabs the nozzle, jerks it out of my hand (and out of the filler neck) and gas flies all over me and the ground. I yelled, "What the F$%$!" The kid says, "Oh, sorry, man, but you can't do that in Oregon. It's too dangerous, we have to do it for you." I said, "Well, it wasn't dangerous until you sprayed gas all over hell!" We went back and forth, and I let him finishing filling it, while the gas evaporated from my pants, leaving just enough stink to keep me awake (had to keep the windows open) for the next 300 miles home.
He did not get a tip for full service.
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Back in 1995 I was roaring through Stage Gulch, Oregon at about 2 or 3 in the morning, heading home to my Olympic Peninsula. I stopped for fuel at a truck stop, got out, and, without thinking, started pumping my own gas into my Toyota truck. Some kid in a plaid shirt and jeans runs up and grabs the nozzle, jerks it out of my hand (and out of the filler neck) and gas flies all over me and the ground. I yelled, "What the F$%$!" The kid says, "Oh, sorry, man, but you can't do that in Oregon. It's too dangerous, we have to do it for you." I said, "Well, it wasn't dangerous until you sprayed gas all over hell!" We went back and forth, and I let him finishing filling it, while the gas evaporated from my pants, leaving just enough stink to keep me awake (had to keep the windows open) for the next 300 miles home.
He did not get a tip for full service.
My point exactly. It's not about safety, it's about creating minimum wage jobs.
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Here we go- a perfect example of a gas pump fire that happened while a guy was fueling his motorcycle and sitting on it! Well, not exactly his motorcycle but rather his car. And perhaps he was not exactly sitting on it but he was standing right next to it. And for absolutely no reason that I can see, the fuel suddenly burst into flames as he used his cigarette lighter to try and burn a pesky spider off of his car. Who would have even seen this coming?
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/28/man-ignites-gas-pump-kill-spider-video/?icid=maing-grid7 (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/28/man-ignites-gas-pump-kill-spider-video/?icid=maing-grid7)|main5|dl40|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1261585028
But the most critical part of the story is not addressed: what happened to the spider?
Brian
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But the most critical part of the story is not addressed: what happened to the spider?
Brian
http://youtu.be/QK-g8YKyOkk (http://youtu.be/QK-g8YKyOkk)
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :chugbeer: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Good one,Rich. :thumbs:
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I stumbled upon a much funnier one years ago, but can't find it, I'll keep looking.... ;)
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http://youtu.be/QK-g8YKyOkk (http://youtu.be/QK-g8YKyOkk)
Don't become the crack spider's bitch! (smoke weed AND drink coffee) :rotflmao:
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Here we go- a perfect example of a gas pump fire that happened while a guy was fueling his motorcycle and sitting on it! Well, not exactly his motorcycle but rather his car. And perhaps he was not exactly sitting on it but he was standing right next to it. And for absolutely no reason that I can see, the fuel suddenly burst into flames as he used his cigarette lighter to try and burn a pesky spider off of his car. Who would have even seen this coming?
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/28/man-ignites-gas-pump-kill-spider-video/?icid=maing-grid7 (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/28/man-ignites-gas-pump-kill-spider-video/?icid=maing-grid7)|main5|dl40|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1261585028
But the most critical part of the story is not addressed: what happened to the spider?
Brian
A wise man once said "you can't fix stupid".
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Don't become the crack spider's bitch! (smoke weed AND drink coffee) :rotflmao:
"For more information on the crack spider's bitch, contact the Canadian Wildlife Service in Ottawa". :rotflmao: I wonder if the Canadian Wildlife Service is getting phone calls about the crack spider's bitch?