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Offline DuneDevil

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Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« on: September 20, 2011, 07:20:05 PM »
Was wondering if anyone has had their bike engage a gear as you were starting it.

Last night as I was getting off work, standing next to the bike. I reached over as usual and tried to start the bike. It turned over once and then grabbed a gear ??? Well, the next thing I know I am trying to catch a 600 pound bike going down :-[ Not fun! I only had a scratch on mirror, but still, if this is a problem, them mabe they need to look at the transmission at the indent for neutral. Or, it could be all my fault for not having it fully in neutral..... I am just checking

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Offline Jeremy Mitchell

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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 07:33:04 PM »
Sometimes when my bike is still cold I will go to shift from 1st to neutral (I always leave it in gear when parked) the gear indicator will go blank.  All I do is rock the bike a bit and try neutral again.  Just an annoyance that I have learned to live with.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 07:34:55 PM »
Never had the problem on my C14 or the old C10.  I have always been fearful of something like that, or bumping the shifer getting on, or whatever - so I have always made it my policy to never start the engine unless I am saddled up first with my helmet and gloves on.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 08:13:14 PM »
   I've never started my bike without being in the saddle with both hands on the grips and the clutch pulled in.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 08:30:53 PM »
Quote from: Y0ssarian on September 20, 2011, 08:13:14 PM
   I've never started my bike without being in the saddle with both hands on the grips and the clutch pulled in.

I have, but I always have the clutch in.  I think it is a leftover from one of my other bikes that would not start unless the clutch was in.  Then I SLOWLY release it.... just in case.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 08:54:13 PM »
I too am in the camp of always being in the saddle with the clutch in before trying to fire it up.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 09:03:55 PM »
I'm ballsy, it would be a rare time I'm mounted when I start up.  51,000 plus miles, no issues.  I start up, lid, plug in comms, gloves, mount, and ride.  Part of the routine.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2011, 09:12:06 PM »
I always start my bikes when not on them, gives them a chance to warm up while I put on my lid and gloves...
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2011, 09:14:16 PM »
Quote from: maxtog on September 20, 2011, 08:30:53 PM
I have, but I always have the clutch in.  I think it is a leftover from one of my other bikes that would not start unless the clutch was in.  Then I SLOWLY release it.... just in case.
Still have to with Triumphs, regardless if in neutral or not. I typically will start in neutral with clutch in as well, then slowly release. I've had the "blank" neutral before too, kinda a pain.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2011, 03:57:31 AM »
Cold clutch plates will drag and it sounds like what happened to you. Or the gearbox wasn't totally in neutral.

When I start up, I'm ready to grab the clutch if necessary, but then I just let it idle while I finish gearing up. Never had the Connie jump into gear on its own.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2011, 04:06:13 AM »
Don't feel too bad, I watched a guy on HD do the same thing.  :)
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2011, 04:41:03 AM »
Quote from: JetJock on September 21, 2011, 03:57:31 AM
Cold clutch plates will drag and it sounds like what happened to you. Or the gearbox wasn't totally in neutral.

+1

When mine is cold & I start it sometimes the bike will "surge" forward a couple inches b/c of the clutch brakes dragging.  Its definitely enough to pull if off the side stand.  I always hold the front brake when I start & then let the bike run a minute while I put on my gloves. 
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2011, 04:43:42 AM »
Quote from: DuneDevil on September 20, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
Was wondering if anyone has had their bike engage a gear as you were starting it.


No, as I always start it with the clutch lever held in...
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2011, 05:05:44 AM »
+1 ... clutch in.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2011, 05:18:06 AM »
Quote from: Son of Pappy on September 20, 2011, 09:03:55 PM
I'm ballsy, it would be a rare time I'm mounted when I start up.  51,000 plus miles, no issues.  I start up, lid, plug in comms, gloves, mount, and ride.  Part of the routine.

That's what I do and I've never had a problem. I start 'er and get my gear on while she warms up a bit.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2011, 07:30:43 AM »
I suppose I could sidetrack this thread and state that's it not really necessary to "warm up" your bike unless you're going to drag race it right away.  But I wouldn't do that.   ;D
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2011, 07:40:54 AM »
Quote from: Cold Streak on September 21, 2011, 07:30:43 AM
I suppose I could sidetrack this thread and state that's it not really necessary to "warm up" your bike unless you're going to drag race it right away.  But I wouldn't do that.   ;D

I would never allow you to sidetrack this thread, no sir. But, would you mind telling the dog in your avatar to move a tiny bit to the left?  ;)
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2011, 08:09:28 AM »


I've never sat on the saddle and started my bike on this or any of the bikes I've owned - except the rare times it may be already warmed up.  No issues to report.

If i ever have any brand/type bike jump itself into gear I need to scrap that POS and ride something else anyway!
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2011, 08:12:24 AM »
Quote from: Son of Pappy on September 20, 2011, 09:03:55 PM
I'm ballsy, it would be a rare time I'm mounted when I start up. 
I too, like to idle my bike for at least 30 sec. before riding off, but always check gear indicator for neutral! If gear indicator is blank, I start my bike with with clutch in, then slowly release it.
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Re: Starting in gear.....Bike ended up on its side
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2011, 08:21:23 AM »
When I park my bike its always on the center stand so I have never had that problem.
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