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Title: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on March 22, 2018, 08:43:00 AM
Softball: Around Chicago (where the game was invented supposedly) they play with no gloves and a 16" (circumference) softball, almost everywhere else is a 12" softball and the fielders use gloves.

Now I've never seen it, but I hear in Maryland that they bowl different than the rest of us. Duck pins or something like that?
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 22, 2018, 09:22:35 AM
They do have duckpins in MD.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckpin_bowling
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: gPink on March 22, 2018, 09:27:21 AM
Where I come from we shoot both the ducks and the pins.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on March 22, 2018, 11:48:36 AM
I suppose if this thread is to survive we may need to add regional specialties that are different from elsewhere just because they aren't available most places. Anybody here from Michigans's U.P. want to tell us about hot pasties?  They sound like those tassel things that some strippers use, but they aren't.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: mikeyw64 on March 22, 2018, 12:03:30 PM
I suppose if this thread is to survive we may need to add regional specialties that are different from elsewhere just because they aren't available most places. Anybody here from Michigans's U.P. want to tell us about hot pasties?  They sound like those tassel things that some strippers use, but they aren't.

I'm rather partial to a proper Cornish one :)
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on March 22, 2018, 12:17:50 PM
I'm rather partial to a proper Cornish one :)
Wrong thread!   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: B.D.F. on March 22, 2018, 01:44:03 PM
Local to RI although very slowly spreading to nearby MA:

1) Hot wieners. Bun, piece of wiener meat (Easy Boys!) which is NOT a hot dog but similar although kept in a steam chamber, covered with meat sauce (do not even ask what is in that), then covered in raw onions and a swipe of yellow mustered. Also called 'gaggers', 'belly- busters' and a whole host of cute names. An RI institution served in many New York System restaurants (which are NOT in New York). Commonly called 'Hot wennies' in RI speak 'cause we don't need no 'R's.

2) Coffee milk, coffee ice cream. Local company makes 'coffee syrup', sort of like chocolate syrup but thinner, stronger and made from the extract of coffee grounds. Very popular here.

3) Del's Lemonade. Which is not lemonade. It is a lemon and sugar and chipped ice concoction. Unique to RI as far as I know- sweeter and thicker than something like Italian Ice, for example. Spring COG rally 2011 served a bunch to the visiting COGgers and it went over quite well, or at least I think (hope?) it did. The stuff is unique because of the stainless steel drums it is made inside of, with long, curved scrapers rubbing the outside of the frozen drum. It is just not like anything that comes out of a blender, for example.

Brian

I suppose if this thread is to survive we may need to add regional specialties that are different from elsewhere just because they aren't available most places. Anybody here from Michigans's U.P. want to tell us about hot pasties?  They sound like those tassel things that some strippers use, but they aren't.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: gPink on March 22, 2018, 02:54:00 PM
Ran across a local favorite on an easterly ride. Scrapple. Run away.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: mikeyw64 on March 22, 2018, 03:36:22 PM
Now that would be nice with a shot or two of Jack Daniels in, kinda variation on a Lynchburg Lemonade :)


Del's Lemonade. Which is not lemonade. It is a lemon and sugar and chipped ice concoction. U

Brian
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: tweeter55 on March 22, 2018, 04:20:04 PM
Pop - Soda - Sodapop ???
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: maxtog on March 22, 2018, 04:59:45 PM
Pop - Soda - Sodapop ???

Carbonated non-alcoholic beverage
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: jimmymac on March 22, 2018, 05:24:58 PM
Twisties.
Yes, the roads.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on March 22, 2018, 05:52:21 PM
Pop - Soda - Sodapop ???

I think we covered that over here: http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=49.msg265905#msg265905 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=49.msg265905#msg265905)
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on March 22, 2018, 06:01:18 PM
Local to RI although very slowly spreading to nearby MA:

1) Hot wieners. Bun, piece of wiener meat (Easy Boys!) which is NOT a hot dog but similar although kept in a steam chamber, covered with meat sauce (do not even ask what is in that), then covered in raw onions and a swipe of yellow mustered. Also called 'gaggers', 'belly- busters' and a whole host of cute names. An RI institution served in many New York System restaurants (which are NOT in New York). Commonly called 'Hot wennies' in RI speak 'cause we don't need no 'R's.

2) Coffee milk, coffee ice cream. Local company makes 'coffee syrup', sort of like chocolate syrup but thinner, stronger and made from the extract of coffee grounds. Very popular here.

3) Del's Lemonade. Which is not lemonade. It is a lemon and sugar and chipped ice concoction. Unique to RI as far as I know- sweeter and thicker than something like Italian Ice, for example. Spring COG rally 2011 served a bunch to the visiting COGgers and it went over quite well, or at least I think (hope?) it did. The stuff is unique because of the stainless steel drums it is made inside of, with long, curved scrapers rubbing the outside of the frozen drum. It is just not like anything that comes out of a blender, for example.

Brian


I'm not sure what's wrong with me (yeah, it's an ongoing question) but all three of those sound interesting. The Hot Wieners sound a little like a chili dog but I gather they are something totally different.

Now about #2 (speaking of Hot wieners, EZ girls)   the coffee stuff, so "Coffee Milk" is what the rest of us refer to as Coffee Ice Cream?....and the Coffee Syrup is used as chocolate Syrup is like maybe on vanilla ice cream. Brian please expand your #2 a bit. (Oh boy what an opening..and oops there's another one... :-\ :banghead:  )
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: Tree on March 22, 2018, 07:52:26 PM
I love the different ways we pronounce the word coffee.  My mother hailed from New Hampshire and it sounded like Kwa-fee when she asked for a cup.  New England people, gotta love 'em.

Don't get me started on Southern Californians and they way they "up-talk".  You've heard it.  It sounds like they're asking a question when they're making a statement.  Drives me crazy and I was born & raised there.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: maxtog on March 22, 2018, 08:13:59 PM
I'm not sure what's wrong with me (yeah, it's an ongoing question) but all three of those sound interesting.

I know what's wrong with me, and all three sound horrible.  Meat, lemon, and coffee.  Gross!!! :)

Now had you said chocolate, peanut butter, and banana.... yum!  And it works in ANY combination, too.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: zarticus on March 23, 2018, 07:41:14 AM
I'm not sure what's wrong with me (yeah, it's an ongoing question) but all three of those sound interesting. The Hot Wieners sound a little like a chili dog but I gather they are something totally different.

Now about #2 (speaking of Hot wieners, EZ girls)   the coffee stuff, so "Coffee Milk" is what the rest of us refer to as Coffee Ice Cream?....and the Coffee Syrup is used as chocolate Syrup is like maybe on vanilla ice cream. Brian please expand your #2 a bit. (Oh boy what an opening..and oops there's another one... :-\ :banghead:  )
I'm originally from Fall River Massachusetts & grew up on Coffee Milk, It has nothing to do with Ice Cream. It's a syrup mixed in with your glass of milk to give it a Coffee type flavor, Kind of like chocolate milk. You can also buy it already mixed in from local Dairy's .
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: lather on March 23, 2018, 08:12:53 AM
Growing up in New Orleans my mom gave us kids "coffee milk" with our breakfast. Just half a cup of coffee with half a cup of heated milk. Her take on the  Cafe Au Lait at the famous Cafe Du Monde in the French Quarter.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: B.D.F. on March 23, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
Coffee syrup is similar to chocolate syrup but of course, coffee flavored. It is used in much the same way as chocolate syrup also- you can mix it with milk to make 'coffee milk' (in fact, it comes pre- packaged that way around here, just like chocolate milk) or put it on ice cream as a flavoring, again like chocolate syrup. The flavor has also been incorporated into ice cream so that we can get coffee ice cream, again exactly like chocolate ice cream but coffee flavored and tan in color.

For a long time, it was a stand- alone product, only available locally (made in Cranston, RI) but has crept out into a little more of the world. Local Burger Kings and McDonalds sometimes off coffee shakes but again, only locally.

It has also crept over the border to the north and is now available in some parts of MA but usually only the southeastern parts (near RI).

Some RI ex- pats like the stuff but cannot get it and so we send it to them by the case. Autocrat (the mfg. of coffee syrup) now makes that available on-line. Unfortunately, I do not know of any way to get a sample or reasonable quantity outside this limited area.

Brian

I'm not sure what's wrong with me (yeah, it's an ongoing question) but all three of those sound interesting. The Hot Wieners sound a little like a chili dog but I gather they are something totally different.

Now about #2 (speaking of Hot wieners, EZ girls)   the coffee stuff, so "Coffee Milk" is what the rest of us refer to as Coffee Ice Cream?....and the Coffee Syrup is used as chocolate Syrup is like maybe on vanilla ice cream. Brian please expand your #2 a bit. (Oh boy what an opening..and oops there's another one... :-\ :banghead:  )
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: B.D.F. on March 23, 2018, 10:01:24 AM
Bingo! There it is- coffee syrup from Autocrat. There used to be another brand, Eclipse but Autocrat bought Eclipse some years ago.

It is dark (almost black), thin and very sweet. It tastes like coffee but in a milder, smoother way with none of the 'bite' of real coffee. Most people seem to like it though they act like it is something from a foreign planet or something :-)

Brian

I'm originally from Fall River Massachusetts & grew up on Coffee Milk, It has nothing to do with Ice Cream. It's a syrup mixed in with your glass of milk to give it a Coffee type flavor, Kind of like chocolate milk. You can also buy it already mixed in from local Dairy's .
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on March 23, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
Bingo! There it is- coffee syrup from Autocrat.

Thanks, I think I'll try some from Amazon. Hmm... they sell Eclipse too. Same company but still two different formulas brews?


 They sell the Del's lemonade too, I wonder how it compares to the street sold stuff? ..OH wait..

The stuff is unique because of the stainless steel drums it is made inside of, with long, curved scrapers rubbing the outside of the frozen drum. It is just not like anything that comes out of a blender, for example.
  :)

I guess you already answered that.



Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: B.D.F. on March 23, 2018, 02:22:21 PM
I prefer Autocrat but hey, that is just one person's taste..... BTW, the stuff can have a most impressive effect on the gastrointestinal system. Beyond anything you can imagine. My kids used to plead with me not to drink the stuff.....

The packaged Dels is not bad, and in fact is <real> Dels and tastes like it. What is different is the 'body' of the material; the stuff made in the drums is different in consistency than anything you can get from, say, ice pushed through a blender. Now of course it is not a huge difference, and in fact a lot, maybe even most, Dels retail outlets sell the 'blender ice, kinda' fakey' version because the S.S. drum machines are expensive and have to make a lot to be economical.

If you want to go whole- hog, you can also buy 'hot wiener' spices in a package. Mixed with ground beef, it too is like the real thing. The wiener meat might be tough to come by though and it just is not the same with a hot dog buried under there. And just 'cause I am thinking about it, the whole experience includes watching the weiner meister (yeah, that's the ticket) make them; they put the buns in- line up their arm, stick a weiner in each roll, put the mustard on with a wooden dowel, then put the meat sauce, onions and lots and lots of celery salt on them. Then wrap them 2 or 3 at a time in this tough tissue paper. The grease is leaking out of the paper before they are even down. Neat to watch a guy making 20, 22 at a time that way :-)  And then they get stuffed into a brown paper bag, which is also now leaking grease before the bag is full. Yum. And of course, I assume the entire 'New York System' chain (that is located in RI- go figure) is underwritten by the council of cardiac surgeons. And after eating even one, you cannot be in the same room with other humans for the next 2 or 3 days- something about 'bad breath' or other.

Good eatin'!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKcU3LrMo24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKcU3LrMo24) At about 2:00, they make the weiners. Olneyville NYS (pronounced "O- knee- ville"), been there a few times. Open very late, draws a savory crowd  ::)  but nothing beyond one pistol seems to be needed.

Brian

Thanks, I think I'll try some from Amazon. Hmm... they sell Eclipse too. Same company but still two different formulas brews?


 They sell the Del's lemonade too, I wonder how it compares to the street sold stuff? ..OH wait..
  :)

I guess you already answered that.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 23, 2018, 07:01:03 PM
Growing up in New Orleans my mom gave us kids "coffee milk" with our breakfast. Just half a cup of coffee with half a cup of heated milk. Her take on the  Cafe Au Lait at the famous Cafe Du Monde in the French Quarter.

I like that place!
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on April 11, 2018, 03:25:34 PM
Local to RI although very slowly spreading to nearby MA:
2) Coffee milk, coffee ice cream. Local company makes 'coffee syrup', sort of like chocolate syrup but thinner, stronger and made from the extract of coffee grounds. Very popular here.

Coffee syrup is similar to chocolate syrup but of course, coffee flavored. It is used in much the same way as chocolate syrup also- you can mix it with milk to make 'coffee milk' (in fact, it comes pre- packaged that way around here, just like chocolate milk) or put it on ice cream as a flavoring, again like chocolate syrup. The flavor has also been incorporated into ice cream so that we can get coffee ice cream, again exactly like chocolate ice cream but coffee flavored and tan in color.

For a long time, it was a stand- alone product, only available locally (made in Cranston, RI) but has crept out into a little more of the world. Local Burger Kings and McDonalds sometimes off coffee shakes but again, only locally.

It has also crept over the border to the north and is now available in some parts of MA but usually only the southeastern parts (near RI).

Some RI ex- pats like the stuff but cannot get it and so we send it to them by the case. Autocrat (the mfg. of coffee syrup) now makes that available on-line. Unfortunately, I do not know of any way to get a sample or reasonable quantity outside this limited area.

Brian


I ordered some of both from Amazon. The ingredients lists are identical. The formulas must be slightly different as the Eclipse has 10 more calories per same size serving and some other nutritional numbers differ as well. They both claim to use Finlay extracts. My first taste test was flawed by putting the samples in the same bowl and they quickly became intermingled. I will continue under more separated conditions in the future. Initial impressions are: fricken fabulously delicious on vanilla ice cream!, either one. The colors seem different slightly (see photo) with the Eclipse being darker, the Eclipse may also be a little thicker, but not by much, and even refrigerated they are both quite thin when compared to chocolate or caramel syrup.
I tried some in milk and I wasn't that impressed, however like I mentioned above the taste on vanilla ice cream is outstanding. I'm a fan of Trader Joe's Coffee Bean Blast ice cream, and I was thinking that the coffee syrup might fill in when I'm out of the TJ's variety. However, right now I think I actually like the syrup on vanilla more than the coffee ice cream.  The eclipse is almost twice the price per ounce, but the bottle wastes less space in the refrigerator door shelf. Stay tuned....

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6wrLpGw/0/5e272cdc/M/i-6wrLpGw-M.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6wrLpGw/0/5e272cdc/O/i-6wrLpGw.jpg)



Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: B.D.F. on April 12, 2018, 04:39:01 PM
Glad you like the stuff. I far prefer Autocrat myself and find the Eclipse a bit too strong.

It also mixes well with milk but for whatever reason, not 2% or skim or any other [non- full strength] milk. Must be something to do with the fat content and the taste?

Believe it or not, you can actually use coffee syrup on coffee ice cream (not too much though) and it still works well- it would seem to be an overdose but it is not as most coffee ice creams are very mild.

For a long time, everything coffee flavored (with the syrup) was extremely local and only found in RI. Then it slipped over the border into MA in places like Burger King and McDonald's as a shake flavor. It is only fairly recently it has moved outside of southern New England at all, and most people find the very idea odd; they think of it as brewed coffee liquid mixed into things, which as you now know is not what it is.

BTW: the stuff does not seem to go bad, refrigerated or not. At least I have never seen / tasted it being 'bad' or changing in any way over time.

Brian

I ordered some of both from Amazon. The ingredients lists are identical. The formulas must be slightly different as the Eclipse has 10 more calories per same size serving and some other nutritional numbers differ as well. They both claim to use Finlay extracts. My first taste test was flawed by putting the samples in the same bowl and they quickly became intermingled. I will continue under more separated conditions in the future. Initial impressions are: fricken fabulously delicious on vanilla ice cream!, either one. The colors seem different slightly (see photo) with the Eclipse being darker, the Eclipse may also be a little thicker, but not by much, and even refrigerated they are both quite thin when compared to chocolate or caramel syrup.
I tried some in milk and I wasn't that impressed, however like I mentioned above the taste on vanilla ice cream is outstanding. I'm a fan of Trader Joe's Coffee Bean Blast ice cream, and I was thinking that the coffee syrup might fill in when I'm out of the TJ's variety. However, right now I think I actually like the syrup on vanilla more than the coffee ice cream.  The eclipse is almost twice the price per ounce, but the bottle wastes less space in the refrigerator door shelf. Stay tuned....

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6wrLpGw/0/5e272cdc/M/i-6wrLpGw-M.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6wrLpGw/0/5e272cdc/O/i-6wrLpGw.jpg)
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: Poseidon on April 12, 2018, 04:50:17 PM
Is it any good on pancakes? 
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: gPink on April 12, 2018, 05:25:23 PM
Couldn't find the caffeine content on the bottle. Did I miss it?
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on April 12, 2018, 06:36:07 PM
Couldn't find the caffeine content on the bottle. Did I miss it?

No, you can't really miss (spotting it) if it isn't there (on either brand). However it isn't listed on a can of coffee either...so...

Unsubstantiated (by me) web information:
Autocrat Coffee Syrup – one serving which is 2 Tablespoons (1fl oz) contains 14mg of caffeine.
Eclipse Coffee Syrup – one serving is 2 Tablespoons (1fl oz) and contains 21mg of caffeine.
..so if the above is correct, it could be why the Eclipse looks darker and costs more per ounce, however I'm sure both use the same Finlay's coffee extract, just different amounts.

I had some last night (probably only 1 Tbls) on a small dish of ice cream and slept just fine.


Try here for others: https://www.caffeineinformer.com/ (https://www.caffeineinformer.com/)
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: just gone on April 12, 2018, 06:37:45 PM
Is it any good on pancakes? 

I don't know. Yet :).
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: Stasch on April 30, 2018, 09:07:20 AM
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Softball: Around Chicago (where the game was invented supposedly) they play with no gloves and a 16" (circumference) softball, almost everywhere else is a 12" softball and the fielders use gloves.

Late to the party but in our area (SE Michigan) that was called Blooper Ball.

There were leagues that were a big deal right alongside slow pitch and fast pitch softball leagues.
Title: Re: Regional differences in the U.S.
Post by: Eupher on April 30, 2018, 03:19:51 PM
Well, there's candlepin bowling in New England, which I think is different than duckpins. And certainly different than regular bowling.

In Little Rock, apparently the thing is to put honey on pizza - at least the crust. I'm not joking.