the conversation seems to have changed... in the beginning, it was "what did you get on the dyno" or "my bike is fast enough" . Now it's "it pulls hard out of the corners and gets better mileage" so NOW we' re starting to get somewhere Steve
You're welcome!
Sorry it took so long. I pulled bodywork down to the side fairings today and did an engine mount re-torque, tightened exhaust header nuts, and tightened radiator bolts. Took my time and had fun. Okay I can tell the difference in the 3k RPM launch test, but I had to do it a couple of times before I noticed it; IOW, I had to acclimate myself to how the bike was behaving between the two modes. In 3rd, starting speed is 38mph. WOT produces an immediate roar that increases in intensity to where I stopped- 80mph and just shy of 7 grand. ECO… I wouldn't call it a hesitation, but nothing happens on WOT other than gentle propulsion and a gradual build of speed, THEN the roar comes on a couple seconds later.
So imagine standing 10 feet from the edge of a cliff and someone pushing you off the cliff from there… that's ECO. Now imagine standing on the edge of the cliff and someone kicking you off… that's SISF. Did I get it right?
4th gear at 3k rpm starts at 46mph and the result is about the same, though you're at 80 before 6 grand. 5th gear 3k starts at 50mph but the difference is not as noticeable; I did not try an OD roll-on, but I might down the road.
So I realize I may not be capable of realizing all the benefits of the flash, so let's go to the checklist:
1) The Shoodaben Engineering C-14 flash will improve power everywhere in the rev range, from just off idle to redline. This makes low rpm riding and short shifting very comfortable.. no need to wind the engine up to get up to speed.
I'm probably the king of short shifting; I rarely, if ever, get above 4k rpm. But I can see, based on the 3k test, that twisting the throttle at the right time will produce a more immediate response than the ECO mode. I would have to spend more time A-B testing the two modes, but I'm really not inclined to do so. I'm happy with the flash.2) You will IMMEDIATELY notice that throttle control is smooth and seamless, like a perfectly set up rack of carbs.
I think there is still some 'badness', but I just turned 5000 miles today. Still 'beating the hell out of the bike' and that is making a difference… every bike needs break-in.3) No abruptness on and off throttle. Up and downshifts will be smooth as butter. You won't have to work to be "smooth on the throttle" anymore.
I believe this is better, but my ability to produce clean up/downshifts may be the limiting factor to noticing that the flash is helping me. I can see, though, as a result of the 3k test, that I can and should expect better response at the grip, so I don't need to compensate for this when shifting. Need to erase mental and muscle memory from previous experience with bike. Plus, I can be pretty sloppy shifting unless I'm really trying for a clean ride. I still have a lot of jacking around during shifting, but it's probably me and I might not notice flash improvement in this area.4) if you ride 2 up, your passenger won't be banging their helmet into yours anymore.
I never ride 2 up but because of (3) above, a pillion would not be happy with me. We would still knock heads.5) You will generally be riding in one to 2 gears higher for any given condition because of the increased torque.
Almost irrelevant for me since I'm always trying to get to OD as quickly as possible anyway. Have tried some in town riding in higher gear and have noticed this is possible. I've tooled around town in 5th as low as 20mph (previously said 10mph; I was mistaken).6) If you're just "riding" and not working the throttle hard, the fuel economy increase will be clearly evident.
This is me 99% of the time and I have already noticed the same increase others have, in general 42 to 48mpg… a 14% increase.7) Grab a handful of throttle and look out! My DEAD STOCK 2012 C-14 dyno'd on Chris Jones' dyno gained 14 hp for a peak of 142hp. Peak torque was almost 95# and torque at 4000rpm increased to 87#. Again, this bike is DEAD STOCK, no other modifications!
Proven in the 3k test.So basically, I have a better bike. I have no complaints!