Keypass dies on trip

[B.D.F.]

WOW! Now I have a mental image I cannot shake. 

Brian

<snip>

....You don't want wet/sticky lube hanging around in there and building up and gathering gunk.  Blech

[gPink]

WOW! Now I have a mental image I cannot shake. 

Brian

....but shaking may be the only way to get the gunk off.

[tomp]

Careful now, someone may start discussing quantum mechanics...
Curious, I always heard that WD40 was designed to be a water displacer for electronic circuits and contacts, not a lube, and wasn't suppose to attract or hold gunk.  (Suppose to be good for arthritis, too.)   

Here's what The MSDS sheet states as ingredients...  does have up to 25% petroleum base oil, though....

 Composition/Information on Ingredients for WD40

Ingredient CAS # Weight Percent

Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 64742-47-8         45-50%

Petroleum Base Oil
64742-58-1
64742-53-6
64742-56-9
64742-65-0                                        total <25%
                           
LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 64742-47-8     12-18%

Carbon Dioxide 124-38-9                          2-3%

Non-Hazardous Ingredients Mixture          <10%

Found that it can be sprayed on oil stains on concrete, and will remove the oil, and leave no residue behind.  Use it for this after O/F changes, cause I'm rather sloppy... tp

[Conrad]

Careful now, someone may start discussing quantum mechanics...
Curious, I always heard that WD40 was designed to be a water displacer for electronic circuits and contacts, not a lube, and wasn't suppose to attract or hold gunk.  (Suppose to be good for arthritis, too.)   

Here's what The MSDS sheet states as ingredients...  does have up to 25% petroleum base oil, though....

 Composition/Information on Ingredients for WD40

Ingredient CAS # Weight Percent

Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 64742-47-8         45-50%

Petroleum Base Oil
64742-58-1
64742-53-6
64742-56-9
64742-65-0                                        total <25%
                           
LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 64742-47-8     12-18%

Carbon Dioxide 124-38-9                          2-3%

Non-Hazardous Ingredients Mixture          <10%

Found that it can be sprayed on oil stains on concrete, and will remove the oil, and leave no residue behind.  Use it for this after O/F changes, cause I'm rather sloppy... tp

But, but, but...

Where does the oil residue go?   

[B.D.F.]

Well, according to QM, things appear and disappear all the time..... in a very random fashion. So I assume the oil disappears.... while you are looking for it.

 

Brian

But, but, but...

Where does the oil residue go?   

[gPink]

Well, according to QM, things appear and disappear all the time..... in a very random fashion. So I assume the oil disappears.... while you are looking for it.

 

Brian

Does it actually lose mass or does it phase change into an alternate universe?

[tomp]

But, but, but...

Where does the oil residue go?   

I have wondered that myself, but have been using it for years for oil clean up and there is no "left behind evidence" on the garage floor.  I guess it's a bloody miracle.  Thanks Brian, I knew that I could count on your QM expertise. tomp 

BTW, When I got my 08, the key knob(?) was difficult to remove, so I sprayed the key way with WD40, and it became easy to remove. Have I erred in a major way?  Will the system self destruct in the next five seconds, or am I hopefully ok for the next decade??? tp

[PH14]

Remember when the ad said 'A day without orange juice is like a day without sunshine'.? What they really meant is that a day without KiPass isn't worth living....

Brian

 

[VirginiaJim]

I have wondered that myself, but have been using it for years for oil clean up and there is no "left behind evidence" on the garage floor.  I guess it's a bloody miracle.  Thanks Brian, I knew that I could count on your QM expertise. tomp 

BTW, When I got my 08, the key knob(?) was difficult to remove, so I sprayed the key way with WD40, and it became easy to remove. Have I erred in a major way?  Will the system self destruct in the next five seconds, or am I hopefully ok for the next decade??? tp

I think it will take more than 5 seconds and you'll be fine until you're not.

[PH14]

I have wondered that myself, but have been using it for years for oil clean up and there is no "left behind evidence" on the garage floor.  I guess it's a bloody miracle.  Thanks Brian, I knew that I could count on your QM expertise. tomp 

BTW, When I got my 08, the key knob(?) was difficult to remove, so I sprayed the key way with WD40, and it became easy to remove. Have I erred in a major way?  Will the system self destruct in the next five seconds, or am I hopefully ok for the next decade??? tp

I have always just used graphite on mine and all the locks work well. Graphite is what is recommended for locks.

[maxtog]

Curious, I always heard that WD40 was designed to be a water displacer for electronic circuits and contacts, not a lube, and wasn't suppose to attract or hold gunk.

WD40 contains oil and anything that is oily in an open environment *will* leave a residue and *will* allow dirt, dust, etc to accumulate.  This is not good for very small mechanical pieces like locks.  Ask any locksmith what to spray into locks.  I would be very surprised if any recommend WD40.  They will likely all point you to graphic power or spray, or teflon power or spray.

BTW, When I got my 08, the key knob(?) was difficult to remove, so I sprayed the key way with WD40, and it became easy to remove.

Had you sprayed water, hairspray, alcohol, urine, or motor oil in it, it likely also would have been easy to remove (for a while, anyway). 

Have I erred in a major way?  Will the system self destruct in the next five seconds, or am I hopefully ok for the next decade??? tp

Major error?  No.  OK for a decade?  Like most things, it "depends".   How often is the lube used?  How much was used during each application?  In what exact environment is the lock all the time?  How often is the lock used?  It is not a case of "your lock will explode or seize in 1 year" but more of a "dry lubricants such as graphite and teflon are designed for delicate mechanical components such as locks and in the long term will perform better, prevent wear better, and have a much lower risk of component failure due to gunk/buildup or wear".  There are worse things for locks than WD40... but there are better things too.

[Rembrant]

WD-40 is a farce anyway...lol. I keep a small can around for removing the sticky residue left behind when decals and stickers are removed from something...anything. I've never really seen much other use for the stuff.
Actually...I don't really believe in "Penetrating Oils" anyway...at least not how they're advertised. I've been working on some of the worst worn out and rusty junk in the industrial, automotive and motorcycle world for over 20 years now, and I've never seen any brand of penetrating oil actually "penetrate" anything...lol.

If I'm going to lubricate a lock, I use a rust protectant spray....the stuff this fizzes and bubbles. It works. Does it leave a residue? Yup, but the lubrication stays put. I wouldn't worry about dirt so much, unless you're a very dusty environment. I just had to do the key holes for the trunks on both of our cars...both locks were seized.

That's cars though...exposed to heavy salt and road grime for months on end. I can't remember the last time I lubricated a motorcycle lock/tumbler. If I have, it's been a long time. If a C14 ignition key is difficult to remove, I'd check and make sure that it wasn't bent....even bent just a hair, and they'll be tough to move. Lubrication makes them easy to remove again...but it doesn't fix the root cause.

[gPink]

'I don't really believe in "Penetrating Oils" anyway'

This is one I like...

http://www.kanolabs.com/

[Rembrant]

'I don't really believe in "Penetrating Oils" anyway'

This is one I like...

http://www.kanolabs.com/

Well there ya go...I likely don't have access to it up here in Canuckistan...lol.

I really have to rely on what's available at the local shops. Every time I hear about or read online about a product that actually "works", it's not available here...lol. Heck...even Seafoam only arrived a couple years ago, and everybody thinks it's "new"...lol.

Hey, but we have good pills Gary...lol.
I have a few American work associates that travel up here occasionally, and they always stock up on our over the counter Codeine...lol. They say they can't get that stuff so easy back home. Soon as the pick up the rental at the airport, it's off to the pharmacy...lol.

Rem

[gPink]

 

Here you go... http://www.4gt.ca/kano-laboratories/
Here's one closer to home.... https://www.motionindustries.com/motion3/jsp/mii/productCatalogSearch.jsp?q=kano

•NS01 - MOTION CANADA
50 AKERLEY BLVD. UNIT 4
DARTMOUTH, NS B3B 1R8
Phone: (902) 468-3231
Fax: (902) 468-2195
dale.mitton@motioncanada.com

•NS02 - MOTION CANADA
77 PARK STREET
NEW GLASGOW, NS B2H 5B7
Phone: (902) 755-3540
Fax: (902) 755-3520
robert.fredericks@motioncanada.com

[Conrad]

Well, according to QM, things appear and disappear all the time..... in a very random fashion. So I assume the oil disappears.... while you are looking for it.

 

Brian

Does it actually lose mass or does it phase change into an alternate universe?

This reminds me of something...



Careful now, you remember what happened to Jack Black and all the dog doo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpads8s5mik