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Title: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: kzz1king on April 04, 2017, 04:14:11 PM
I only have one Fob and a passive one. I am thinking of securing the passive one on the bike somewhere. Any suggestions? Thinking under the panel on the tank.
Wayne
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 04, 2017, 04:21:09 PM
I only have one Fob and a passive one.

So you have two Fobs... a [large] passive [only] fob and a [small] active [actually dual active/passive] fob.  This is the standard inclusion with the 2nd Gen C14.  The first gen came with two active and no passive.

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I am thinking of securing the passive one on the bike somewhere. Any suggestions? Thinking under the panel on the tank.

I do personally do not recommend keeping any fob (which is also the key to the bike) on the bike itself, for obvious security reasons.  But if you were to keep one on the bike, the passive one is what you would want to use.  Hide it well, and make sure it is as least a few inches from the ignition lock and obviously not in a locked area :)

I keep my active fob in an inner zippered pocket of my riding jacket.   This means I never have to look for or take out a key, because I never ride without my jacket (of course).  Losing my huge riding jacket is extremely improbable.  I then keep the passive at home as the emergency spare.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: jwh20 on April 04, 2017, 04:34:07 PM
If you have a spare key, highly recommended, then you have more options.  How about under the seat in the toolbox?  I have two passive FOBs and will only take one of them with me when I'm on an extended trip.  I always leave the 2nd one at home as an emergency backup.  But when I have the passive FOB with me, I usually keep it in one of the zippered pockets in my jacket.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 04, 2017, 04:43:59 PM
If you have a spare key, highly recommended, then you have more options.  How about under the seat in the toolbox?

Under the seat is a locked area.... so if you lose your fob, how will you unlock the seat to get to the spare fob/key?
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: Ron Dawg on April 04, 2017, 05:15:10 PM
If you put it in your jacket, secure your jacket. Some scumbag took mine off my bike in Johnson City TN. That jacket also had the keys to my travel trailer in the pocket. Bastid...

If you put it under the seat, have a generic key made for your normal keyring that is likely in your pants pocket to unlock the seat (and gas tank and bags). That'll lock up your fob and make it convenient to unlock the rest. I have a generic key and a Givi key on a ring in my left jacket sleeve.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on April 04, 2017, 05:20:47 PM
I own an 08

I have 2 active fobs, with keys,
one lives in the pocket of my Stich, for use when fueling up, I use that Key... also for the side bags... stove knob lives in it's happy place, and is NOT ever removed.

the other one lives in my pants pocket, when riding.

a fob at home isn't an option, when you are 500 miles from home.

I also replace both fob's batteries when I find one that gives a warning...  because I always carry both, at all times.. so if one ain't working, I know the other one ain't far from the same...

Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 04, 2017, 05:31:28 PM
If you put it in your jacket, secure your jacket. Some scumbag took mine off my bike in Johnson City TN. That jacket also had the keys to my travel trailer in the pocket. Bastid...

Very true.  Most of the time when I am riding, I have the jacket with me when I get off the bike.  If not, the "store it in the jacket and forget it" concept doesn't work well.  If I have room in a pannier, I will lock it there and use a spare regular plain-old-metal key I made.  If not, I will lock the jacket through the zipper pulls to the extra helmet locks AND REMOVE THE FOB and put it in my pants or fanny pack or whatever I have with me.

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If you put it under the seat, have a generic key made for your normal keyring that is likely in your pants pocket to unlock the seat (and gas tank and bags). That'll lock up your fob and make it convenient to unlock the rest. I have a generic key and a Givi key on a ring in my left jacket sleeve.

Ok, yeah, I have a spare metal key for exactly that purpose too!
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 04, 2017, 05:33:11 PM
I also replace both fob's batteries when I find one that gives a warning...  because I always carry both, at all times.. so if one ain't working, I know the other one ain't far from the same...

Not a bad practice, but you can always use the active fob as a passive device if the active fob battery fails, so that isn't too much concern.

Certainly no bike has more key drama than the C14, since it has so many options and possibilities :)  (See how I turned a negative into a positive?)
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on April 04, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
If you put it in your jacket, secure your jacket. Some scumbag took mine off my bike in Johnson City TN. That jacket also had the keys to my travel trailer in the pocket. Bastid...

If you put it under the seat, have a generic key made for your normal keyring that is likely in your pants pocket to unlock the seat (and gas tank and bags). That'll lock up your fob and make it convenient to unlock the rest. I have a generic key and a Givi key on a ring in my left jacket sleeve.

strange you mention that, where were you when you left your jacket unattended???
I make a point of removing everything from my Stich that is "stealable" and stuff it in a small fanny pack when I leave my stich on the bike... and I only leave it on the bike when in sight, at a COG function...( because everyone knows better, and doesn't want to test this old man's "punch Powah" (which excedes the Mad Powah of KiPass by 3000x)... 8)
If I leave my Stich on the bike anywheres else, I run a very stout Master Cable lock thru the sleeves, and leg on the stich, and over the seat and thru the rear rim on the bike, for secure storage... if they want to cut the stich apart to steal it, i guess i get a new one...

I also keep the keys for my rear trunk, and my locking Garmin mount, and even my trailer locks, attached to both fobs, which are never left to someones pilfering hands.

Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: jwh20 on April 04, 2017, 06:58:26 PM
Under the seat is a locked area.... so if you lose your fob, how will you unlock the seat to get to the spare fob/key?

I said IF you have a spare key, then this is an option...
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 04, 2017, 07:50:58 PM
I said IF you have a spare key, then this is an option...

I missed your meaning originally... thought you meant the key was the spare fob.  As I posted earlier, I, too, keep a spare metal key on my normal ring for the bike.  So that would be an option.  A good option too, since getting a metal key cut is pretty easy and cheap (and I do highly recommend it).
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: jimmymac on April 04, 2017, 08:07:36 PM
At your mom's house.

Sorry, i couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: Diablo6v on April 05, 2017, 02:30:24 PM
I still do NOT understand all the drama of the FOB. I have had one on every car since '90. Never had any problems with losing one. I have an '09 with two active FOBS.  I used a zip tie like MOB to secure my keys to it, and that's it. I don' t carry a spare. I don't use a lanyard to secure it to my person. It stays at home with my spare car keys. Do you carry a spare FOB for your car? If you loose the car FOB its cheaper to replace but you're still SOL if far from home. Why is it so different on a motorbike? It's the same as a car with a FOB except it's a keyed lock for the gas tank. Just asking not trying to start any trouble...
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: B.D.F. on April 05, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
The reason people worry about their fobs is because of wild animals.

Not all that long ago, humans were very at- risk of being attacked and killed by large carnivores. So we started hanging around perpetual fires, hid in caves and eventually built buildings strong enough to keep those pesky critters away from us. Today it is very rare to hear about a mastodon or saber- tooth tiger attacking anyone but we really have not evolved any appreciable amount since it was a real problem, so the fear lives on. But now we transfer that fear to other things such as: what if the toilet clogs (horror!)? Is my microwave really reducing my sperm count? And, of course, what if I lose my fob (shiver me timbers). The sad truth is that people have a fixed amount of worry and fewer things to expend it on so.... we waste it on relatively silly things. Mostly KiPass I think (remember, NEVER, EVER tease a saber- tooth tiger or take the key out of the ignition on a C-14).

Brian

I still do NOT understand all the drama of the FOB. I have had one on every car since '90. Never had any problems with losing one. I have an '09 with two active FOBS.  I used a zip tie like MOB to secure my keys to it, and that's it. I don' t carry a spare. I don't use a lanyard to secure it to my person. It stays at home with my spare car keys. Do you carry a spare FOB for your car? If you loose the car FOB its cheaper to replace but you're still SOL if far from home. Why is it so different on a motorbike? It's the same as a car with a FOB except it's a keyed lock for the gas tank. Just asking not trying to start any trouble...
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 05, 2017, 06:30:47 PM
I still do NOT understand all the drama of the FOB. I have had one on every car since '90. Never had any problems with losing one. I have an '09 with two active FOBS.  I used a zip tie like MOB to secure my keys to it, and that's it. I don' t carry a spare. I don't use a lanyard to secure it to my person. It stays at home with my spare car keys. Do you carry a spare FOB for your car? If you loose the car FOB its cheaper to replace but you're still SOL if far from home. Why is it so different on a motorbike? It's the same as a car with a FOB except it's a keyed lock for the gas tank. Just asking not trying to start any trouble...

I don't worry about it much, myself, but it is a very expensive/complex mistake to lose both!
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: Diablo6v on April 06, 2017, 12:57:00 PM
The reason people worry about their fobs is because of wild animals.

Not all that long ago, humans were very at- risk of being attacked and killed by large carnivores. So we started hanging around perpetual fires, hid in caves and eventually built buildings strong enough to keep those pesky critters away from us. Today it is very rare to hear about a mastodon or saber- tooth tiger attacking anyone but we really have not evolved any appreciable amount since it was a real problem, so the fear lives on. But now we transfer that fear to other things such as: what if the toilet clogs (horror!)? Is my microwave really reducing my sperm count? And, of course, what if I lose my fob (shiver me timbers). The sad truth is that people have a fixed amount of worry and fewer things to expend it on so.... we waste it on relatively silly things. Mostly KiPass I think (remember, NEVER, EVER tease a saber- tooth tiger or take the key out of the ignition on a C-14).

Brian


 :) :) :) :) :) ;D ;D ;D ;D hahhahaha good one...I have your bypass gadget. I have used it twice..One of the Best Farkles out there..
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: SofaKingFast on April 07, 2017, 09:19:50 PM
I keep the passive fob stored under the seat.  Extra metal keys can be fabricated cheaply at a locksmith, and I have several of these.  One stays on my keyring, another is hidden on the bike, and on longer trips, I give a third one to a fellow rider.  If my fob is misplaced or doesn't work, the metal key unlocks the seat and I can pull out the passive fob. 
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: sailor_chic on April 07, 2017, 09:54:49 PM
I keep my passive fob tucked right in my bra. They are the handiest things for storing items. Spare money, house key, fobs, cell phones, and sometimes even some left over food. That comes in especially handy on the long days on the road when hunger sets in!   ;D
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: B.D.F. on April 07, 2017, 10:46:36 PM
Well, I think this thread has been trumped. There is only one place more impressive than that that one could store 'things' in and I seriously doubt anyone who does this would admit it in a public forum.

Years ago, we had a puppy that absolutely loved my mother. My mother always brought the dog Milkbones whenever she visited and of course the dog went nuts trying to find them (in her pocket? in her jacket pocket?). One day in the summer, she was not wearing anything but a blouse and slacks, and nothing had any pockets. So the Milkbones went in her bra. She sad down on the couch and the pup was all of 5 seconds finding them and retreving them..... to the utter amazement of all the other guests at the party.....

Brian

I keep my passive fob tucked right in my bra. They are the handiest things for storing items. Spare money, house key, fobs, cell phones, and sometimes even some left over food. That comes in especially handy on the long days on the road when hunger sets in!   ;D
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 08, 2017, 12:30:12 AM
I keep my passive fob tucked right in my bra. They are the handiest things for storing items. Spare money, house key, fobs, cell phones, and sometimes even some left over food. That comes in especially handy on the long days on the road when hunger sets in!   ;D

LOL!  Few, if any, could top that!  Case closed!
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: Conrad on April 08, 2017, 05:36:10 AM
I keep my passive fob tucked right in my bra. They are the handiest things for storing items. Spare money, house key, fobs, cell phones, and sometimes even some left over food. That comes in especially handy on the long days on the road when hunger sets in!   ;D

All that extra storage is well and good but I think that every guy here would agree with me when I say that we love what those things were originally designed to hold.    :P
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: just gone on April 08, 2017, 09:07:14 AM
I think perhaps we need a bra thread where the bras can be ranked for storage abilities by brand etc. So does one normally get a cup size larger for extra storage capacity?..if so what happens when there is nothing "extra" to store (i. e. Nicole eats the Milky Way bars she had in there at a rest stop) do the remaining storagee's move around in all that extra space until storage gets restocked?
Enquiring minds A bunch of gray haired ol' farts want to know.  ::)
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: B.D.F. on April 08, 2017, 09:35:14 AM
Hey Jim,

Maybe you should meld this and the 'bouncy feeling' thread. They seem to be getting closer. ?

Brian
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: connie_rider on April 08, 2017, 09:48:41 AM
Err, getting back to the Passive FOB.

I like the idea of keeping it in the tool tray under the seat, and have a spare key on my truck keychain...

NOTE: I don't worry about loosing my truck or house keys as I have spares.
          But, {like many of you} I worry about loosing the main FOB.
               Primarily because I know it would be hard/expansive to replace.

So, I came up with this idea.....
I keep my FOB in a leather keychain similar to this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Leather-Mens-Key-Holder-Accessory-Easy-6-Key-Chain-Wallet-Case-Black-/252802513920?hash=item3adc343c00:g:rfwAAOSwz2lXCYXB (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Leather-Mens-Key-Holder-Accessory-Easy-6-Key-Chain-Wallet-Case-Black-/252802513920?hash=item3adc343c00:g:rfwAAOSwz2lXCYXB)
{I have keys to the trunk and bag/seat on the keychain, and the FOB Fits nicely into the pocket on the left side}.

Recently I had a brainstorm and added it to that keychain.
I had a dog tag made at Walmart, that might increase the odds of getting the FOB back if lost...

It sez;  Ted Adcock
           Phone number
           $50 reward if found


Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 08, 2017, 10:32:39 AM
Recently I had a brainstorm and added it to that keychain. I had a dog tag made at Walmart, that might increase the odds of getting the FOB back if lost...

It sez;  Ted Adcock
           Phone number
           $50 reward if found


That is not a bad idea at all.  Most people would be willing to return something, even with no reward, if they knew to whom and it was easy.  But almost nobody labels keys.  If one wanted to go super-cheap, one could even just put a tape laminated sticker on the back saying "call XXXXXX."
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: mikeyw64 on April 08, 2017, 10:36:27 AM
My spare active fob (08 so dont have a passive only one) lives at my girlfrieds house.

If by some random act of god I was to lose my main one (which is kept inside a zipped pocket used for nothing else on my high viz jacket and never comes out, I just use the stove key fro opening the panniers as designed, yes I know some would advise against that but hey I'm a rebel!!) ) I guess I would just have to call the AA/RAC /whoever I'm currently with and get the bike trailered home.(Unless I was relatively close in which case I'm sure she would come out unless she was with me lol).
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: gPink on April 08, 2017, 10:54:04 AM
That is not a bad idea at all.  Most people would be willing to return something, even with no reward, if they knew to whom and it was easy.  But almost nobody labels keys.  If one wanted to go super-cheap, one could even just put a tape laminated sticker on the back saying "call XXXMAX for a good time."
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: maxtog on April 08, 2017, 12:22:59 PM
LOL- I think I might then never get the keys back...
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on April 08, 2017, 04:02:52 PM
Hey Jim,

Maybe you should meld this and the 'bouncy feeling' thread. They seem to be getting closer. ?

Brian

Ok, ok, ok, ......
You asked for it......dammitttt....

http://youtu.be/sZa26_esLBE (http://youtu.be/sZa26_esLBE)
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: motonerd14 on April 09, 2017, 10:41:40 AM
I usually keep it in my wallet. There's a little coin pouch in some Diesel branded bi-folds that is just the right size for it.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: kzz1king on April 09, 2017, 12:27:26 PM
Ok. A bra it is. Might be able to get the 9mm in there too. Now to see if the wife will share.
Wayne
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: just gone on April 09, 2017, 01:03:21 PM
Ok. A bra it is. Might be able to get the 9mm in there too. Now to see if the wife will share.

Well, that does it...now I just need to grow a pair.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/z61lkygP5vRC/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 09, 2017, 01:55:06 PM
What I've just seen cannot be unseen... :yikes:
Err, getting back to the Passive FOB.

I like the idea of keeping it in the tool tray under the seat, and have a spare key on my truck keychain...

NOTE: I don't worry about loosing my truck or house keys as I have spares.
          But, {like many of you} I worry about loosing the main FOB.
               Primarily because I know it would be hard/expansive to replace.

So, I came up with this idea.....
I keep my FOB in a leather keychain similar to this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Leather-Mens-Key-Holder-Accessory-Easy-6-Key-Chain-Wallet-Case-Black-/252802513920?hash=item3adc343c00:g:rfwAAOSwz2lXCYXB (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Leather-Mens-Key-Holder-Accessory-Easy-6-Key-Chain-Wallet-Case-Black-/252802513920?hash=item3adc343c00:g:rfwAAOSwz2lXCYXB)
{I have keys to the trunk and bag/seat on the keychain, and the FOB Fits nicely into the pocket on the left side}.

Recently I had a brainstorm and added it to that keychain.
I had a dog tag made at Walmart, that might increase the odds of getting the FOB back if lost...

It sez;  Ted Adcock
           Phone number
           $50 reward if found


Ride safe, Ted

That's a real good idea on the dog tag.  My fob lives on a chain.  The only way it goes missing is if I lose my pants and belt.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: O.C. on April 10, 2017, 12:22:18 AM
What I've just seen cannot be unseen... :yikes:
That's a real good idea on the dog tag.  My fob lives on a chain.  The only way it goes missing is if I lose my pants and belt.

Hey, steady on Jim  :rotflmao:   
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: Organdonor on August 01, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
I keep my spare fob under the seat, wrapped in tin foil or in an EZ-PASS shielded zip-lock bag (the bag the pass came in.) When go on trips two-up, my passenger carries it in her zippered pocket. I have spare metal keys on my keychain, and one duct-taped under the plastic in case of emergency.

When I can not lock my gear in my cases, I lock them to the bike. I have two cables, similar to this:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d6/3b/2d/d63b2d625745ac2aa9cf9f914000d3c9--motorcycle-helmet-lock-locks.jpg)

I run the cable through the sleeve of the jacket, and lock it to the bike with a gun-lock. Most folks who own guns have several of these kicking around:
(http://content.presspage.com/uploads/1483/gunlock.jpeg?10000)

I can also use the gun lock alone to lock my helmet to the side rack supports while it's sitting on my pillion seat.

All the cables and the gun lock are small enough to fit in the tank compartment with room to spare.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: Mike2011 on August 03, 2017, 08:19:13 PM
I keep my passive fob in an inside pocket of my riding jacket and my bigger main fob in my pants pocket.  For me personally I'd never keep either of the fobs anywhere on the bike itself.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: tonedeaf1 on August 03, 2017, 09:29:56 PM
I had mine sewn into my riding jacket.
Title: Re: Where do you keep your passive FOB?
Post by: Eupher on August 04, 2017, 04:44:10 AM
I keep my passive fob in an inside pocket of my riding jacket and my bigger main fob in my pants pocket.  For me personally I'd never keep either of the fobs anywhere on the bike itself.

Ditto.