Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => Accessories and Modifications - C10 => Topic started by: buzzcut on May 19, 2011, 09:15:43 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.ca/Full-Set-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-ZG1000-86-93-/310255921453?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item483cb1a92d (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Full-Set-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-ZG1000-86-93-/310255921453?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item483cb1a92d)
Hopefully this link will work. I bought these and wow, do they ever improve on the old ones on my 86. All are 5mm. I didn't put it on the rear but the three together were cheaper than just the front two.
The countersink for the screws to mount it was not quite wide enough for the heads to fit inside but there was enough head size to secure easily and not be a safety concern. Really grippy once they are seated with the pads. so much so, I made a mistake on a parkade down ramp to avoid a car. Laid the bike bike down finally. On the plus side, I have the highway pegs from Murph and I always wondered if they would work like a tipover bar. Glad to say they do. No damage to anything. I think that if there was a fashion statement for rotors, these are it:)
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Your link doesn't seem to work...shows that the item is no longer available. I got my replacement rotors from China also. I went with the 310mm petal rotors since I had upgraded to 4 pot calipers and had room for the larger rotors. I've had no problems with them so far after about a year and a half.
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tired a different link hopefully this will work
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Damn those are sharp. I think a set of those might just have to go on the Spirit.
Can you post some pics of them mounted?
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Looks great. Too bad the ones that fit my '05 are still stupidly expensive.
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I shall try to add pics this weekend
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Looks great. Too bad the ones that fit my '05 are still stupidly expensive.
Same vendor on ebay just has them listed as GTR no ZG1000.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-GTR-1000-94-06-/140460125648?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b4136dd0 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-GTR-1000-94-06-/140460125648?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b4136dd0)
I think the rear on the 05 is still that same as it was on 86-93
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I think the rear on the 05 is still that same as it was on 86-93
The rear never changed 86 through 06 all the same.
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Same vendor on ebay just has them listed as GTR no ZG1000.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-GTR-1000-94-06-/140460125648?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b4136dd0 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-GTR-1000-94-06-/140460125648?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b4136dd0)
I think the rear on the 05 is still that same as it was on 86-93
Very helpful. Thanks!
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I just ordered a pair. (of rotors thank you)
Report to follow...
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so here is a pic. Not fully seated in yet
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What's the deal with stainless vs. steel for rotors? EBC says 20% more stopping power over stainless, but galfers are stainless and they obviously don't suck. Is that marketing hoopla or is there some truth to it? I wouldn't want to lose the 20% increase in braking I just added with 320mm rotors and 4 piston calipers by using the wrong stuff.
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What's the deal with stainless vs. steel for rotors? EBC says 20% more stopping power over stainless, but galfers are stainless and they obviously don't suck. Is that marketing hoopla or is there some truth to it? I wouldn't want to lose the 20% increase in braking I just added with 320mm rotors and 4 piston calipers by using the wrong stuff.
Carbon Steel can have a courser more open grain pattern which will improve friction but will rust.... Stainless Steel will not rust but has a slightly more slick closed grain pattern has slightly lower friction. To which EBC uses Stainless Steel rotors and Galfer is known for their "Iron" rotors that when new have such sharp edges that they can and will cut you; these edges are hard on a pad but they do add a lot to the friction and thus grab much tighter.
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Having put steel rotors on mine I would advise against it as they will rust and and put a light film of rust over the wheel, forks, calipers, fairing, etc. I have not noticed much of an improvement (if any) over stainless steel discs. I am soon to buy a set of the Chinese rotors. Note I have 4 piston Nissin calipers.
Regards, Russell
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I am soon to buy a set of the Chinese rotors. Note I have 4 piston Nissin calipers.
Regards, Russell
Do you have 320mm rotors? If so please post the link to the ones you buy and let us know how it worked out. I maybe in for a set too,320s that is.
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I am not sure what the original rotors were made of, but these stainless ones are way grippier( is that a word). I am happy with them
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Did I read correctly that shipping, economy shipping is $60USD? $60? More than one third the total cost of the items? And made in China? Sorry, don't want to start an argument but I'll pass, even at that price.
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Ah well, considering EBC wants 375 per rotor plus shipping, and these are all three for 220, well that's different math in my books. don't knock china, they are buying all our coal and metals and adding value to it.
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use them hard on a rainy day, and put the bike in a garage for a week. Tell us if they rust.
Stainless ain't always stainless, there are many grades, some work great for rotors, some don't. Some rust, and some don't....
oh, if they warp, $220 was a costly gamble. Not to say EBC would give you new ones if they warp, but I'd think you would have a better chance of it.
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Well, my bike sits outside all the time, and gets wet with the sprinklers too, not to mention we have had our annual rainfall in the last two weeks and I can say no rust. warp, well only time will tell. I went through two sets of original rotors with warp so... In all fairness though, even with maintenance every year on the calipers, I had the left one seize and hence the warp.
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Not to say EBC would give you new ones if they warp, but I'd think you would have a better chance of it.
Actually If you buy EBC pads and rotors together and they warp EBC will replace the rotors.
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Their advertisment states the discs are made from "Stainless steel 420 (2Cr13)". Grade 420 is hardenable due to the high carbon content (for stainless), this grade is commonly used for surgical scalpels, knives, etc because of its hardenability. It should be OK for discs and not rust, see attached data sheet.
Regards, Russell
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I've had my Chinese front rotors on for almost a year now. Still working fine and haven't seen any indication of rust yet.
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I bet EBC rotors are also made in China...
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Any further reports on these now that you've had them on for a month or so? Likes or dislikes?
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Still happy, no rust or warping. Gone over 2000 Km since installed.
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:chugbeer:
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About a month on mine and no complaints.
Look great. Stop great.
However the Carbonne Lorainne pads I got @ Murphs are the squeakiest pads I have ever used.
Probably gonna change em out for something different as soon as I have the $$
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The EBC Sintered work well.
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apply silicone to back of pads to stop the squeal
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apply silicone to back of pads to stop the squeal
Silicone lube?
Or silicone sealant?
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the silicone sealant. Just a thin smear. I let it dry first but I have been told it is not necessary to let it dry. It stops the vibrations between the caliper and pad. I have used both the water based and regular silicone with good results.
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I installed a set of these on Friday then did a 600mi weekend with about 200mi of serious twisties.
They work great & I'm quite pleased with them.
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Silicone lube?
Or silicone sealant?
I like this stuff. http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/specialized_maintenance_repair/brake_maintenance_repair/auto_Permatex_Ultra_Disc_Brake_Caliper_Lube_Hi-Temp_Silicone_Formula.htm (http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/specialized_maintenance_repair/brake_maintenance_repair/auto_Permatex_Ultra_Disc_Brake_Caliper_Lube_Hi-Temp_Silicone_Formula.htm)
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My rotors arrived 10 days after ordering from China to Australia. US$219 for 3 rotors including delivery. Fitted them yesterday and bedded them in with about 150 km of riding including some with pillion and all is good so far, smooth and no shuddering. I haven't ridden for about 6 months but these rotors don't seem to have the same power as the previous carbon steel units, there is a lot of lost friction area in the slots and notches around the outside. Might try a new set of pads.
Regards, Russell
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I had to look up the 320mm set myself... on sale for a few days it looks like. Long delivery times it appears to be a "slow boat from China"
HTH
320mm zx9:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140460141835&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140460141835&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT)
310mm zrx 1200:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-ZRX-S-R-1200-01-06-/310256651313?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item483cbccc31 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-ZRX-S-R-1200-01-06-/310256651313?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item483cbccc31)
300mm zg/gtr 94+:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-GTR-1000-94-06-/140460125648?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b4136dd0 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-GTR-1000-94-06-/140460125648?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b4136dd0)
300mm zg/gtr 86-93:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Full-Set-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-ZG1000-86-93-/310255921453?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item483cb1a92d (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Full-Set-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Kawasaki-ZG1000-86-93-/310255921453?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item483cb1a92d)
I did not see a rear mean streak wheel rotor except as a set...
HTH
No particular endorsement etc.
KenE
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My rotors arrived 10 days after ordering from China to Australia. US$219 for 3 rotors including delivery. Fitted them yesterday and bedded them in with about 150 km of riding including some with pillion and all is good so far, smooth and no shuddering. I haven't ridden for about 6 months but these rotors don't seem to have the same power as the previous carbon steel units, there is a lot of lost friction area in the slots and notches around the outside. Might try a new set of pads.
Regards, Russell
If you were indeed used to running "carbon steel" rotors you would indeed lose some braking friction switching to stainless steel as they have different coefficients of friction. Whereas in truth there is little lost friction in the area of the slots and notches around the outside as these actually increase the total amount of leading edges for the brake pad to grab at; otherwise high performance brake rotors would still be solid surface not drilled or slotted. You trade leading edges for surface area.
You should always install new pads with new rotors or at the very least break the glaze on the old pads on 60 grit or rougher sand paper; I've used the concrete shop floor in a pinch to rough up pads.
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Hi Tony,
I did expect the coefficient of friction to be less but not to this extent, and I understand the theory of having holes/slots/grooves. Interestingly a lot of performance discs are grooved and don't have holes all the way through, I did this with my carbon steel discs. I don't know if you've seen these Chinese discs but the slots taper from 10mm to 7mm wide and the notches are aproximately 20mm wide by 8mm deep, all that is quite a lot.
I did a lot of deglazing of the pads with 120 grit paper and then washed them with "Electroclean", it's for cleaning electric motors/brushes and dries without residue. I didn't want any carbon steel particles embeded in the old pads to transfer to the stainless steel discs.
Regards, Russell
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Did any of you guys who bought these Chinese rotors fit the rear rotor?
It's only 5mm thick and the OEM rear is 8mm.
Any problems with the rear?
I have an 89 with zrxmopars early model brackets carrying Nissin (CBR900) calipers.
Anyone else out there running an early model C10 with Nissin calipers?
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Did any of you guys who bought these Chinese rotors fit the rear rotor?
It's only 5mm thick and the OEM rear is 8mm.
Any problems with the rear?
I have an 89 with zrxmopars early model brackets carrying Nissin (CBR900) calipers.
Anyone else out there running an early model C10 with Nissin calipers?
Im still running stock on my 86; but you have my attention
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I made brackets and converted my 86 fronts to 320mm with Tokico 4 pots. Right now I am using Kevlar pads but will be trying some HH before too long.
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2Fast, the 320mm rotors, are they semi-floaters or solid like the 83-93 OEMS?
If semi-floaters how did ya mount them.
Sorry Snarf, but nobody I know of is making the adapters for the early C10s any more.
ZRXMopar used to make them and a guy called Russell on the Aussie forum made some different ones, but to my knowledge they don't make these any more.
Mine look like this. The rotors are cheap steel ones and rusted badly.
(http://gtr1000.com/graphics/mygtrpics/ottos_new_brakes.jpg)
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I will split the set with you on a pair of Vulcan Nomad rotors
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2Fast, the 320mm rotors, are they semi-floaters or solid like the 83-93 OEMS?
If semi-floaters how did ya mount them.
Sorry Snarf, but nobody I know of is making the adapters for the early C10s any more.
ZRXMopar used to make them and a guy called Russell on the Aussie forum made some different ones, but to my knowledge they don't make these any more.
Boomer, the 320's I used are floaters. They are not rusting and work just fine so far. I got them from this seller, and he has em on sale at the moment. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-For-Yamaha-YZF-R7-OW02-750-99-01?item=310261175803&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8168830675059376179#ht_1107wt_952 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-For-Yamaha-YZF-R7-OW02-750-99-01?item=310261175803&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8168830675059376179#ht_1107wt_952)They are actually made to fit a Yamaha, and the mounting holes need to be drilled out slightly. The adaptors I made are for the early models. I don't think ZRXMopar ever made them for early models, but I could be wrong. The look like this http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2878840720063175854VehkJS (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2878840720063175854VehkJS)
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I am running Nissin 4 piston calipers on an '86 model with the Chinese discs, the discs are the standard 270mm diameter.
I did buy the rear disc but did not fit it as the OEM disc is still in tolerance and not warped.
As for Russell in Australia making the adapters for 4 piston calipers, that's me (see my sig line). I can still make the adapters but don't have any at the moment as there has not been interest in them for quite a while. I can make more but making batch quantities is not an option due to the lack of interest. The laser cutters have a minimum charge so I guess the price of a set would be about AU$150 including postage.
Regards, Russell
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Just for the record, no rust on rotors, still working well.
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I am running Nissin 4 piston calipers on an '86 model with the Chinese discs, the discs are the standard 270mm diameter.
I did buy the rear disc but did not fit it as the OEM disc is still in tolerance and not warped.
As for Russell in Australia making the adapters for 4 piston calipers, that's me (see my sig line). I can still make the adapters but don't have any at the moment as there has not been interest in them for quite a while. I can make more but making batch quantities is not an option due to the lack of interest. The laser cutters have a minimum charge so I guess the price of a set would be about AU$150 including postage.
Regards, Russell
Thanks Russell, if I remember right your adapters are a lot tidier looking than those I have (the ZRXMopar ones).
Could you please post a pic of yours fitted?
Thanks for letting me know about the front rotors.
I guess I need to order a set. If I need to fit a different rear rotor, then I haven't lost much.
For those still running with the single piston OEM calipers on your 86-93, you have to experience these 4 piston Nissin calipers to understand. They aren't as good as the radial calipers on my C14 but they are 90% of the way there.
The OEM calipers are about 20%, less if they are old/dirty/worn.
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Boomer, the 320's I used are floaters. They are not rusting and work just fine so far. I got them from this seller, and he has em on sale at the moment. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-For-Yamaha-YZF-R7-OW02-750-99-01?item=310261175803&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8168830675059376179#ht_1107wt_952 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-For-Yamaha-YZF-R7-OW02-750-99-01?item=310261175803&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8168830675059376179#ht_1107wt_952)They are actually made to fit a Yamaha, and the mounting holes need to be drilled out slightly. The adaptors I made are for the early models. I don't think ZRXMopar ever made them for early models, but I could be wrong. The look like this http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2878840720063175854VehkJS (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2878840720063175854VehkJS)
Thanks Brian,
Would you consider making another set of brackets?
Semi-floaters would be better than the fixed rotors.
There are still quite a few 86-93 owners out here.
So, if Russell can provide small numbers of brackets for the OEM rotors and you could provide small numbers for the semi-floaters, we could all learn what decent brakes feel like.
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I have a fellow working on them right now. Not sure how fast they will be done, but I should have a few sets available. They require a Tokico 4 pot caliper set with a little bit of milling on the mating surface, and the 320's from China or elsewhere. Pretty easy swap after the stuff is all in a pile.
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Hi Boomer,
Pictures posted as requested. See also last post of http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=657.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=657.0)
Your comments are correct about what a difference the 4 piston calipers make. These calipers make much more braking power than larger discs alone. From memory compared to standard they have 33% more pad area and 136% more piston area.
Regards, Russell
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Thanks Brian and Russell,
I will probably go with Russells as I already have the Nissin Calipers.
Either way I am looking at $200 worth of Chinese rotors and the brackets but with yours Brian I would need calipers as well.
If I were super cheap I could carry on with Shauns brackets but they aren't the prettiest.
Russell, how much (with shipping to the UK), how do I pay, and how soon? ;D
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Hi George (Boomer),
Thanks for your interest in the brackets.
I am waiting for a reply from the laser cutters and I will then be able to give you a price and lead time.
With payment I used to ask for an account transfer but the banks charge both of us a fortune to do this, more for you than me (I usually mention that I have great disdain for banks). So I now have a PayPal acount. After I post the price contact me via the private section and we can swap email and street addresses.
Regards, Russell
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Hi George (Boomer),
Just got information from laser cutters.
Price for the set (2 brackets) including postage to UK and instructions: AU$136
Lead time: laser cutters & me 2 weeks (maybe less), post 3 - 10 days (in the past Europe & USA have taken about 7 days)
To reduce price I need quantity, If any others place orders along with yours price will reduce.
If you are still interested please contact me in the private section.
Thanks & regards, Russell
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Have just ordered a pair of brackets from Russell.
If anyone else want some of these to fit an 86 to 93 C10 with Nissin or Tokico 4 piston calipers, let him know as the more that order, the lower the cost.
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Just pm'd Russell that I'll take a set.
Mike
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OK, looks like I have orders for 2 sets, that makes the price now AU$125 per set mailed to UK or USA.
If anyone else is interested let me know so I can work out a revised price. I will need to know by Monday (in Australia) so payment can be made before I order from laser cutters, it's not that I am mistrusting but I'm a pensioner. Lead time is still the same as stated earlier.
Thanks & regards, Russell
PS Boomer & gruff54,
Thanks for orders. I will contact you after final numbers are known.
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If anyone else is interested let me know
pm sent
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Ok, I have orders for 3 sets and the price is now AU$118 per set delivered UK or USA.
If any more are required let me know soon as I will be finalising this and ordering the cut blanks tomorrow.
Regards, Russell
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Hi, late to the conversation and new to bikes.. I have a new to me 1989 c10 A4 and am looking at new rotors. I don't know much about this so am looking for help.. If I order the chinese rotors what else do I need if I get the 4 pot calipers from Russell? I like the sounds of better stopping...
thanks Mike
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Hi Mike,
With an early C10 you have 2 choices.
1. Standard sized rotors (280mm) with Russells brackets and either Nissin or Tokico 4 piston calipers. Mine has Nissins from a CBR900RR (2001).
2. Yamaha sized 320mm semi-floating rotors with 2Fasts brackets and the Tokico 4 piston calipers.
The new rotors will improve the braking slightly.
The 4 piston calipers make a MASSIVE difference.
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Boomer, thanks.. I think I want to stay with the standard sized rotors.. I am not sure which calipers to use or where to get them? I live in a small community in British Columbia, Canada. Is there anything else I would need to switch to the 4 pot system? If I am going to this trouble should I go to SS brake lines?
Mike
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Hi Mike,
For the switch to 4 piston front brakes you need:
Brackets
from me
Calipers (Nissin)with good pads
HONDA
CBR 900 RRW/RRX/RRY/RR1/RR2/RR3 ʻFirebladeʼ 98-03 F
VTR 1000 SPY/SP1 (SC45) 00-01 F
VTR 1000 SP-2/SP-3/SP-4/SP-5/SP-6 02-06 F
CB 1300 F1 (SC40) 01 F
Tokico's will also fit but I don't know the models.
Brake fluid
DOT4
Stainless steel brake lines are not absolutely neccessary but do improve braking performance.
Regards, Russell
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Boomer, Gruff54, GeeBeav,
Thank you for your payments, all good.
Cut blanks have been ordered from laser cutters, I should have them in 5 working days at the latest.
Mike Rowe
If you want a set let me know quickly and I might be able to add them to the order.
Thanks & regards, Russell
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Russell, I am in.. What will it cost me, delivered to Canada? Thanks alot to all who are helping me.. THIS IS GREAT... How do I pay you?
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the order. I can add yours if we move quickly.
I have sent you a message in the private section telling you all you need to know for payment & delivery.
Thanks & regards, Russell
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Gentlemen,
I have the cut blanks and will commence working on them today.
Regards, Russell
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Good news travels fast (need I say like a C10). I received my nissin calipers today...
Thanks again
Mike
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Gentlemen,
I mailed all of your brackets this morning. Look for a plain white business envelope with clear tape stuck around the edges, it weighs about 270 grams and is fairly rigid. Australia Post says 3-10 days, my experience is 7-8 days. Please let me know when they arrive.
Thanks & regards, Russell
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Will do Russell, and thanks. I'm current in California but will be home again on Thursday.
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Got mine Friday. Boy, do they look nice! Now to find a set of calipers.
Thanks, Russell!!
Mike
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Got mine, too. Nice work.
Would you post the calipers to look for again?
thanks
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Would you post the calipers to look for again?
Post # 61
Calipers (Nissin)with good pads
HONDA
CBR 900 RRW/RRX/RRY/RR1/RR2/RR3 ʻFirebladeʼ 98-03 F
VTR 1000 SPY/SP1 (SC45) 00-01 F
VTR 1000 SP-2/SP-3/SP-4/SP-5/SP-6 02-06 F
CB 1300 F1 (SC40) 01 F
Tokico's will also fit but I don't know the models.
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Post # 61
Thanks, sorry for the laziness :-[
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gruff54, GeeBeav
Glad to hear you got them, I know Boomer has got his.
T Cro
Thanks for answering GeeBeav's question. I was not home yesterday as it was a public holiday for the birthday of an elderly lady in England, even though her birthday is in April.
Mike Rowe
Have your brackets arrived yet?
Regards, Russell
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Not as of this morning! Will let you know as soon as I receive them... ;D
Mike
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Russell,
Hello from the great not so white but very wet north!!! I received my brackets today... ;D
They look very nice... The mounting holes line up with my Nissin calipers.. Also received my rotors from China this week!! Its been a lot like Christmas at my place 8) Next the stainless lines and speed bleeders. Thanks Mike
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Hi Mike,
Glad to hear they arrived, I was getting a bit concerned. Wonder why Canada took so long?
I look forward to hearing how it all works out for everybody.
Regards, Russell.
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Hi Mike,
Glad to hear they arrived, I was getting a bit concerned. Wonder why Canada took so long?
I have the same issue with Canada; I can in fact send stuff down to your part of the globe in less time (10 days) than it takes for my packages to travel 200 miles across the border (2 weeks plus)....
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Canada only has one Customs guy and he's pretty busy, Eh? <LOL>