I rode 440 miles today on mine, and this was the "first and only time" that my ass has not hurt me after riding a day like that. I have the top of the line model they make, yes it is firm for a bit but will eventually form to your butt. I have always been a big fan of Sargent seats, but Sargent and Corbin is inferior compared to Baldwin as far as I am concerned. And a Russel saddle is just hideous, I wouldnt take one if it was given to me.