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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: philipintexas on May 21, 2013, 09:26:01 AM

Title: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: philipintexas on May 21, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
Based on the number of questions I get from people who purchased a Kawasaki trunk at the same time they bought their bike, I'd like to provide some guidance for those who haven't yet bought a trunk.  For the Concours there are really only two choices based on the trunk mounting systems.
The Kawasaki trunks are similar to Givi monoLOCK trunks in that they require an additional universal mounting plate. Nearly all other brand trunks fall into that category. If you plan to stay with the stock plastic luggage rack you are limited to trunks having a universal mounting plate or you can use the Givi SR-410 mount that reinforces but sits above, the stock rack.
Givi monoKEY trunks use a system that allows them to mount directly to an after-market luggage rack using an inexpensive mounting kit that can be quickly removed when the trunk isn't needed.
There is one other possibility, the SEARS / J.C. Whitney trunk MAY fit a rack with a Givi / SW-Motech monokey kit.  It may require some minor modification to the trunk bottom or it may just fit like a Givi trunk. l think they have trunks made by sub-contractors and some of them will fit and some may need a little tweeking or it may not work at all. I've sold a number of racks to folks who have used these trunks successfully.
I'm not promoting any particular brand, just trying to let folks make informed choices. 
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 21, 2013, 12:18:29 PM
Should be a good thread.  Thanks for bringing it up.

My thoughts, the plastic rack is a piece of  :censored: .  I wouldn't carry nor mount anything to it.  It's been recalled once and we've had a least one report where it disintegrated (new one).

I personally have a Shad46 that I got from Murph.  It has a metal base plate mounted to the rear rails.  The plastic rack is on a shelf gathering dust.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: Sinstr on May 21, 2013, 01:51:19 PM
I bought a 50L Shad trunk and the metal plate that mounts to the rails.  Love the trunk, easy to use, worth the money
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: AZ-ZG on May 21, 2013, 02:15:05 PM
Didn't know there were so many options when I bought mine, 11/2010.  Got the OEM put into the price. 10850 plus fees for my '09. Been paid off for quite some time, thank goodness.  8)

Had I known I woulda gone with something that has the ability to handle the SO leaning back against it.  ;)

No issues with the Kawi parts. Don't use it that often but it is handy to have that extra space when going to the beach or a weeklong two-up trip. Always try not to exceed the 10 lbs. limit.   :)

(http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac166/zgmikeb14/Concours%20d%20Elegance/DSCN4067_1435_zpsc7ba55fd.jpg) (http://s896.photobucket.com/user/zgmikeb14/media/Concours%20d%20Elegance/DSCN4067_1435_zpsc7ba55fd.jpg.html)

Knowing what I do now, my selection would be different!  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: udoggie on May 21, 2013, 02:28:05 PM
FYI, phil's farkles rack is a lot better than the Givi 410, and really easy to install as well.  If you're in the market, definitely check it out.

While the mount is definitely important, so is getting a box that meets your needs.

I've had a Givi V46 hat I've been using for some time now, and finally broke down and got the box I really need (A Givi E55).  The '46 was just a little too small to hold what I needed to put in it.

Jeff
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: voileauciel on May 21, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
I love Phil's rack. Not only does it really look awesome on its own, but with the trunk on there, it's as solid as can be. Also makes a great mounting point for a rearward-facing GoPro camera!
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: PlaynInPeoria on May 21, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
I have a 2012 with a Phil's rack and a Givi 46L Monokey.  I need to add some more padded strips because my case rocks and rattles and rolls (it has a little slop between the Phil's rack and the Givi case).
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: Cougr67 on May 22, 2013, 09:47:48 AM
I went with the 50L CooCase from TwistedThrottle.com. the mounting system is not a slick as the Givi Monokey but the price and features make up for it. CooCase comes with built in brake lights, padded inner liner, color top panel included in base price, remote locking system and more. All at a chapter price than Givi. I highly recommend at least taking a look.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: philipintexas on May 22, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
COUGR67: Can you post photos of the mounting system and hardware, that may help people who want to see what's involved. Thanks.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: PH14 on May 22, 2013, 01:07:10 PM
I went with the 50L CooCase from TwistedThrottle.com. the mounting system is not a slick as the Givi Monokey but the price and features make up for it. CooCase comes with built in brake lights, padded inner liner, color top panel included in base price, remote locking system and more. All at a chapter price than Givi. I highly recommend at least taking a look.

Did you get the backrest, and if so, does your passenger like it?
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 22, 2013, 05:41:40 PM
Also, the Kawasaki trunk is rated to hold 3Kg and the trunk that fits on Phil's rack is rated to hold 10Kg.  Nuff said.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: booger on May 22, 2013, 06:08:34 PM
I dunno.  I'm kinda anal though.  Why would I want to spend the bucks on a KAWASAKI Concours, and have the trunk say GIVI?
I went with the OEM trunk, mainly for looks and the color matching.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: Cougr67 on May 22, 2013, 07:15:24 PM
I am pretty sure that the Kawasaki OEM trunk is made by Givi. Kawasaki just puts their name on it and jacks the price up

I will get pictures of the CooCase later this evening
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: Cougr67 on May 22, 2013, 11:51:15 PM
Here are a few pictures of my CooCase trunk. I have it mounted on the rack recommended by Twistedthrottle.com. The rack is not nearly as nice as Phils but then again it is considerably cheaper and if you are using this case it is covered up by the mounting plate anyway.

One other nice thing about this set up is that there is some adjustment for and aft, With the Givi Monokey system if the pass backrest doesn't happen to fall in the right spot for your passenger you are SOL.

The case has three tabs on the bottom that lock into the forward part of the mounting plate. The back part snaps into place similar to all the other trunks I have seen. The electrical connectors for the locks and lights automatically connect when the trunk snaps into place so you don't have to fuss with any wring when removing and installing.

I did get the backrest option and my passenger does like it. Its nothing fancy, just a firm rubber pad screwed to the lid, but much appreciated back support.

For comparison, for the trunk, gloss black lid, steel rack, and backrest came to a total of 339.97. I bought a t-shirt to bring the total over 350 so I could get free shipping.

Bike looks kind of pathetic sitting in the back yard waiting for new seat to arrive this week.....

(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r792/TNordine/CooCase/20130522_160156_resized_zps89e31b85.jpg) (http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/TNordine/media/CooCase/20130522_160156_resized_zps89e31b85.jpg.html)

(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r792/TNordine/CooCase/20130522_160207_resized_zpsed3416a1.jpg) (http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/TNordine/media/CooCase/20130522_160207_resized_zpsed3416a1.jpg.html)

(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r792/TNordine/CooCase/20130522_160242_resized_zpsd9467264.jpg) (http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/TNordine/media/CooCase/20130522_160242_resized_zpsd9467264.jpg.html)

(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r792/TNordine/CooCase/20130522_160340_resized_zpsfd570abd.jpg) (http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/TNordine/media/CooCase/20130522_160340_resized_zpsfd570abd.jpg.html)

Probably not the highest quality setup but I am happy with it, no regrets ;D
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 23, 2013, 05:15:59 AM
I dunno.  I'm kinda anal though.  Why would I want to spend the bucks on a KAWASAKI Concours, and have the trunk say GIVI?
I went with the OEM trunk, mainly for looks and the color matching.

GIVI makes the Kawasaki trunk.  My givi trunk matches the bike better than the Kawasaki trunk because I have the clear lenses like the bike has.  Plus the brake light in the trunk is a nice addition when commuting.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: philipintexas on May 23, 2013, 07:18:38 AM
I forgot to mention one other possibility, the SEARS / J.C. Whitney trunk MAY fit a rack with a Givi / SW-Motech monokey kit.  It may require some minor modification to the trunk bottom or it may just fit like a Givi trunk. l think they have trunks made by sub-contractors and some of them will fit and some may need a little tweeking or it may not work at all. I've sold a number of racks to folks who have used these trunks successfully.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: katata1100 on May 23, 2013, 09:20:16 AM
I think the Shad 50L matches well with the lines of the C14. The side trim has little inverted fin cut outs (don't know how to describe them) that match with the side bags.
I thought that on my bike, the stock flat black didn't match at all, so I went through a lot of trouble to find the optional top plate. I got matching silver paint from colorite and painted the top lid and side trim to match the silver on my bike.
The trunk can be left unlocked so I usually use it for carrying stuff when I go shopping, easily holds my helmet. I have never wanted for more storage space, even on my two week trip last fall.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 23, 2013, 10:34:30 AM
I forgot to mention one other possibility, the SEARS / J.C. Whitney trunk MAY fit a rack with a Givi / SW-Motech monokey kit.  It may require some minor modification to the trunk bottom or it may just fit like a Givi trunk. l think they have trunks made by sub-contractors and some of them will fit and some may need a little tweeking or it may not work at all. I've sold a number of racks to folks who have used these trunks successfully.

The large whitney trunk will fit.  Had one on my KLR650.  I wouldn't put that on a nice concours though.  For those that have the whitney trunk, it is a copy of an older givi trunk.  Just add some weatherstripping to the lid and it will be waterproof.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: lablank on May 23, 2013, 10:59:39 AM
I've got the luggage rack (with the GIVI monoKEY kit installed) and backrest from Advanced Sport Touring, that I use with my Givi E-55 (clear lenses and AdMore lighting kit). Perfect for me and my passenger (actually, if the "passenger" is happy, I'm happy!!!).  I did not like the puny backrest that came with the Givi E-55 and the AST backrest is fantastic. And it can be used without the box!

Rene
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: ZG on May 23, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
I am pretty sure that the Kawasaki OEM trunk is made by Givi.

Correct.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: northsouth on May 24, 2013, 03:13:32 PM
Phil's rack with the Givi V47. The angle of the picture makes it look larger than it really is.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: voileauciel on May 24, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
Phil's rack with the Givi V47. The angle of the picture makes it look larger than it really is.

That's badass! Did you get that from Europe or something? I was looking on Givi's US website and they don't have it listed yet. Thinking I might get one of these for use on short trips, and to just keep on the bike. (I already have the 55, but I save that for long trips and don't leave it on the bike.)
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: northsouth on May 24, 2013, 04:08:23 PM
That's badass! Did you get that from Europe or something? I was looking on Givi's US website and they don't have it listed yet. Thinking I might get one of these for use on short trips, and to just keep on the bike. (I already have the 55, but I save that for long trips and don't leave it on the bike.)

I got it on EBAY from a company called Second Gear out of Canada. For some reason Givi doesn't sell this one stateside. If you order from them, be sure that you have them check that both keys are with the trunk. Mine was shipped with only one and it was locked inside the trunk. They overnighted me the other one so their customer service was very good.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: booger on May 24, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
I know who made Kawasaki's trunk.  Still, mine said Kawasaki on it.  The Givi trunk doesn't.

And I put brake lights / running lights in mine.

And whether or not the Givi matches better than the OEM is just a matter of preference.
Title: Re: Trunk buying advice: Kawasaki Vs. other brands
Post by: Scaffolder on May 25, 2013, 08:46:29 AM
I have the Givi E-55 trunk on Phils rack.
Way bigger than the Sears trunk that is mounted to the garage floor right now.