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Title: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Conrad on October 15, 2017, 07:17:28 AM
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Professional athletes can be added to the above.   
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: maxtog on October 15, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
+1
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: gPink on October 15, 2017, 07:41:21 AM
 :goodpost:
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Conniesaki on October 15, 2017, 08:32:25 AM
But ... but ... Leonardo DiCaprio is currently telling me all I need to know about climate change. Surely he is an expert. I mean, he's a real good actor, and that is bound to transfer over and automatically make somebody an expert on most or all other topics. After all he has the microphone, and the camera is on him. So I for one trust him to know what's best, and to tell me.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: sanmo on October 15, 2017, 09:16:22 AM
DiCaprio may not be an expert, but assuming that he is not a total bimbo he could be getting information from experts and forming an informed opinion? Regrettably, our celebrity obsessed culture places greater weight on the opinion of the DiCaprios of this world, than the opinion of shmucks like me or you, or even the real experts. Do not discount the star power of entertainers. After all, we sent one to the highest office in the land.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: gPink on October 15, 2017, 09:46:26 AM
DiCaprio may not be an expert, but assuming that he is not a total bimbo he could be getting information from experts and forming an informed opinion? Regrettably, our celebrity obsessed culture places greater weight on the opinion of the DiCaprios of this world, than the opinion of shmucks like me or you, or even the real experts. Do not discount the star power of entertainers. After all, we sent one to the highest office in the land.

As he fires up his private jet to go to Davos to tell me I'm bad for driving an SUV.  Don't think so.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Conrad on October 15, 2017, 09:53:13 AM
DiCaprio may not be an expert, but assuming that he is not a total bimbo he could be getting information from experts and forming an informed opinion? Regrettably, our celebrity obsessed culture places greater weight on the opinion of the DiCaprios of this world, than the opinion of shmucks like me or you, or even the real experts. Do not discount the star power of entertainers. After all, we sent one to the highest office in the land.

Are you talking about the current entertainer or Ronnie?    ;)
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: sanmo on October 15, 2017, 10:12:23 AM
As he fires up his private jet to go to Davos to tell me I'm bad for driving an SUV.  Don't think so.

But you are conflating the possibility of hypocrisy on his part, with whether he should shut up because he's not an expert. What happened to Freedom of Speech, etc.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: maxtog on October 15, 2017, 10:12:32 AM
Watch and barf:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg)

I do demand a plan- but they won't like it.

Here is a better video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3eoSWouac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3eoSWouac)

Oh, you might like this one too:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6z2b3RvdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6z2b3RvdM)
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: sanmo on October 15, 2017, 10:15:02 AM
Are you talking about the current entertainer or Ronnie?    ;)

Ronnie was an entertainer but also Governor of California. The current circus is quite unprecedented.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Nosmo on October 15, 2017, 10:28:30 AM
Ronnie was an entertainer but also Governor of California. The current circus is quite unprecedented.

Yeah....and don't forget Ahhnold, and many others:

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000025899/ (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000025899/)

Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: gPink on October 15, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
But you are conflating the possibility of hypocrisy on his part, with whether he should shut up because he's not an expert. What happened to Freedom of Speech, etc.
It is not a possibility it is a fact. He has the same freedom of speech as any other American citizen. I have the freedom to call him and others out as frauds and to express my dislike by not contributing to their well being. And you can throw the NFL whiners in the same sinking ship.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 15, 2017, 07:10:32 PM
 :popcorn:
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Post by: Rick Hall on October 15, 2017, 08:11:16 PM
:popcorn:
:popcorn:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: maxtog on October 15, 2017, 08:32:36 PM
I like popcorn, especially caramel...
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Conrad on October 16, 2017, 04:34:49 AM
Yeah....and don't forget Ahhnold, and many others:

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000025899/ (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000025899/)

That's quite the list! It seems that the term 'entertainer' is used pretty loosely for some of those...
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 16, 2017, 05:26:33 AM
Don't forget that we have entertainers here as well.
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Post by: BruceR on October 16, 2017, 06:05:21 AM
I don't know- I'd toss Trump off the entertainer list.  His show was secondary to having gained (and lost and regained) his wealth.  But then, would "You're fired" have meant anything on the campaign trail?  Was it his wealth, and therefore perceived lack of dependence on special interest groups that got him elected?  Or did his firing of people on the Apprentice help him along?  I think a combination of the two..
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Conniesaki on October 16, 2017, 08:58:30 AM
I don't know- I'd toss Trump off the entertainer list.  His show was secondary to having gained (and lost and regained) his wealth.  But then, would "You're fired" have meant anything on the campaign trail?  Was it his wealth, and therefore perceived lack of dependence on special interest groups that got him elected?  Or did his firing of people on the Apprentice help him along?  I think a combination of the two..

Ha, neither: It was Hillary.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: tweeter55 on October 16, 2017, 09:43:37 AM
He, neither: It was Hillary.
How did she help him win the primaries? I'm not saying he should not have, just asking.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: sanmo on October 16, 2017, 10:33:14 AM
It is not a possibility it is a fact. He has the same freedom of speech as any other American citizen. I have the freedom to call him and others out as frauds and to express my dislike by not contributing to their well being. And you can throw the NFL whiners in the same sinking ship.

We're in agreement then. You, I and our pal Leo can keep yapping ad infinitum. But we've got to have him travel to Davos in his Prius.  :)
I'm guessing that the "NFL whiners" will be reluctant to board any ship at the invitation of a white dude, given cultural memories of past voyages with very bad outcomes.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: gPink on October 16, 2017, 10:48:26 AM
 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Conniesaki on October 16, 2017, 12:55:31 PM
How did she help him win the primaries? I'm not saying he should not have, just asking.

I don't know that she helped him win the primaries. Although watching him campaign I felt he was the best choice to beat her, and steer the government away from massive, overbearing socialism, whereas Hillary would've steered us harder into it. And I don't think I'm alone in that thinking.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: tweeter55 on October 16, 2017, 01:40:37 PM
I don't know that she helped him win the primaries. Although watching him campaign I felt he was the best choice to beat her, and steer the government away from massive, overbearing socialism, whereas Hillary would've steered us harder into it. And I don't think I'm alone in that thinking.
  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: maxtog on October 16, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
I don't know that she helped him win the primaries. Although watching him campaign I felt he was the best choice to beat her, and steer the government away from massive, overbearing socialism, whereas Hillary would've steered us harder into it. And I don't think I'm alone in that thinking.

Given the choice between Hillary and ANYONE on the other ticket, people that didn't like her as a person OR her policies OR her party's policies would have voted against her.  Crap, I certainly did vote against her, and I very much dislike Trump. GOD I wish he would put a good FILTER in front of what he says;  I have never heard such poor speeches and read such horrible text- repetitive, uninformative, unnecessarily argumentative, disrespectful, often even childish.

How he won the primaries was not about Hillary, but about people being absolutely frustrated by the "established" Republicans who were not fighting hard enough against what the Democrats had been doing and would continue to do.  Most of the other candidates were tow-the-line-dye-in-the-wool-establishment Republicans.  He was not.  I agree that he was probably the best candidate to beat her.  What a strange moment in political history.

We DESPERATELY need instant runoff voting (ranked choice voting), for primaries and elections:  http://fairvote.org (http://fairvote.org)
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: Tree on October 17, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
"Entertainer" could be a misnomer for these clowns but I guess it is a good label as any.  It is entertaining to listen to them rant about issues that they know nothing about.  Really funny actually when you think about it.

They may rent space in my head for a nano-second but I boot them out as soon as I can.  I have other things to devote my time to, like deciding whether to put a CT on my Connie or not...

Yep, I said it.   :D
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 17, 2017, 12:46:33 PM
 :yikes: and  :yikes:
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: jettawreck on October 17, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
I hate to be obviously clueless, but what's a "CT"??
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: gPink on October 17, 2017, 07:37:27 PM
A tire that was designed and built for use on an automobile....'car tire'.
Title: Re: Dear Entertainers
Post by: B.D.F. on October 18, 2017, 06:16:10 AM
I think we're gonna' need to hear what some of the entertainers think about this before we can reach a sound decision.

Somebody what to throw this out on FaceTwit or wherever it is that one goes for idiocy in large doses?

Brian

A tire that was designed and built for use on an automobile....'car tire'.