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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: h2smokin on May 27, 2011, 12:00:33 PM

Title: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: h2smokin on May 27, 2011, 12:00:33 PM
Decided not to take my pump on the trip to calif. sun. How co2 cartridges would be good to carry for a flat. I won't be able to get them til I hit calif. but would be nice to know. I already have plugs as well as the fiber strips? that I like . I just don't want to carry more than necessary, thanks
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: mtn.connie on May 27, 2011, 12:29:54 PM
I would like to know that as well. I carry four 16 gram ones. I figure that should be good for at least one flat.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: JetJock on May 27, 2011, 12:52:00 PM
Don't know, but if it's something like 4 to fill the back tire, I'd rather have a mini 12-volt pump. Takes up no more space and no worries about running outta C02.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: C1xRider on May 27, 2011, 12:53:18 PM
Maybe you just need a smaller compressor?

I would think something like this : http://www.slime.com/product/111/Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator-%28%2340001%29.html?utm_source=Slime.com&utm_medium=PDF&utm_term=Power%2BSport&utm_campaign=Compressor%2BComparison (http://www.slime.com/product/111/Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator-%28%2340001%29.html?utm_source=Slime.com&utm_medium=PDF&utm_term=Power%2BSport&utm_campaign=Compressor%2BComparison) would take up less room than the CO2 cylinders.  Plus, you can use it more than once (or even twice if you're careful).

I've seen these at Wally World, and a few other big box retailers, for not much more than a box of the CO2 cartridges.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: h2smokin on May 27, 2011, 01:56:38 PM
the pump i have is about 3x that size but then again its also 10yrs old. I may pick one of those up. Lots of wally worlds I'll be passing at some point. Thanks
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: mtn.connie on May 27, 2011, 02:05:01 PM
I have that slime pump and have used it. The difference is that it could take 10 minutes or so to get a tire full. The 4 co2 carts are about the size of a cigarette pack (a shade bigger) but will fill a tire in seconds. Nice option on the side of a highway in the rain.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: Arata on May 27, 2011, 06:12:32 PM
I think they are good for about 10 psi each in a rear tire.

Be sure and wear your gloves when you screw those things on.

I wasted the first one I ever used because I was bare handed.

They get really cold, really fast, and I dropped it.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on May 27, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
I have that slime pump and have used it. The difference is that it could take 10 minutes or so to get a tire full. The 4 co2 carts are about the size of a cigarette pack (a shade bigger) but will fill a tire in seconds. Nice option on the side of a highway in the rain.

BS
if the seal was broken during a repair.
go out and empty 4 into a completly flat tire. and ride it.

2 cartridges won't inflate my puny mountain bike tire, let along doubling that, and expecting it to fill a tire 6 times the size/volume.

giving information like this without doing it is BS.
you won't be able to ride a bike anywheres with 4  cartridges .
get a Campbell-Hausfield 12v pump from wall mart.
3 minutes total to fill a tire to 40 psi.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: OCK913 on May 27, 2011, 08:19:50 PM
The Slime Powersport Pump is on sale at Northern Tool for $24.99 and shipping is free if you have it sent to a store near you. I also had a $5 off coupon.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: booger on May 27, 2011, 08:48:15 PM
BS
if the seal was broken during a repair.
go out and empty 4 into a completly flat tire. and ride it.

2 cartridges won't inflate my puny mountain bike tire, let along doubling that, and expecting it to fill a tire 6 times the size/volume.

giving information like this without doing it is BS.
you won't be able to ride a bike anywheres with 4  cartridges .
get a Campbell-Hausfield 12v pump from wall mart.
3 minutes total to fill a tire to 40 psi.

My CH from Wallmart sure won't fill my back tire 3 minutes.  I just came in from deflating my tire and re-airing it up.  Took 7 mins, 46 seconds.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: B.D.F. on May 27, 2011, 09:17:26 PM
How many watt- seconds of energy did the pump use in that amount of time?  ;D

Really though, thanks for testing that and posting the results. Is the pump you used the same as the flat Slime type? The Slime pump seems OK but the fitting that goes on the tire stem is so tight and cranky that it seems removing it loses about 1/2 of the air volume you just pumped into it.

Brian


My CH from Wallmart sure won't fill my back tire 3 minutes.  I just came in from deflating my tire and re-airing it up.  Took 7 mins, 46 seconds.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: JoeR on May 28, 2011, 07:51:50 AM
BS
if the seal was broken during a repair.
go out and empty 4 into a completly flat tire. and ride it.

2 cartridges won't inflate my puny mountain bike tire, let along doubling that, and expecting it to fill a tire 6 times the size/volume.

giving information like this without doing it is BS.
you won't be able to ride a bike anywheres with 4  cartridges .
get a Campbell-Hausfield 12v pump from wall mart.
3 minutes total to fill a tire to 40 psi.

I've got one of the Wally World CH pumps, it's worked great for years, just take the screws out of the plastic case, remove the pump, discard the case, I keep mine in a stuff sack.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: Arata on May 28, 2011, 08:35:10 AM
BS

giving information like this without doing it is BS.
you won't be able to ride a bike anywheres with 4  cartridges .

I have to disagree.

I ran over a fence staple in New Mexico,

repaired two punctures with the stop and go mushroom heads everyone hates,

wasted my first cylinder (see above)

and got 30 psi in the rear with the last three in the kit.


Maybe there are different charged cylinders?
I was using the stop n go ones.
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: jimmymac on May 28, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
Those Slime pumps call for a 20 amp power source. I wired mine to my Gerbings plug-in. 8)
Title: Re: how many co2's cart. for a flat?
Post by: S.Ga.Rider on May 28, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
I keep 6 in mine just in case.