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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Bai65 on June 20, 2017, 12:25:48 AM
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Hi steve i am new to this forum i ride gtr1400 2016 if i want to flash my ecu how?
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I from singapore
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Welcome to the forum. What year bike? If you want your ECU flashed you would need to remove it from the bike and send it to someone that does that sort of thing, like Steve.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20462.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20462.0)
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................I ride gtr1400 2016 ............
;D
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Too early in the morning.. :doh:
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Bai65 welcome. Go to this site and you'll find out what you need to know. https://sites.google.com/site/shoodabenengineering/concours1400
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thanks Ron - steve
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Ok if i send ecu to steve how long i will get back o me ? N how much it cost from singapore tu there?
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You will need to check on express postage prices from Singapore to USA and also on any possible import charges you may have when the ECU is returned.
See the link above - it has the price and other details.
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...and talk to the man doing the reflash. He can better answer those questions.
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Sori for asking ;D if i flash the ecu then i need anything like power commander or other thing to make the bike good? :D
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The reflash eliminates the need for any external fuel controller.
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Sori for asking ;D if i flash the ecu then i need anything like power commander or other thing to make the bike good? :D
No.
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Hi if in singapore somebody can flash the ecu its the same with steve flash? I serch tru the web n found https://www.woolichracing.com (https://www.woolichracing.com) doing the flash have u all heard? Sorimy english not so good ;D
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Lots of workshops can flash the ECU including the folks at Woolich but nobody can do it to the highest of customer satisfaction levels that Steve's service and results give.
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You got that right!
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Thisreflash stuff is interesting. If you dig around, you start to get a feel of who is good for bike "X" and how that guy might be THE man on that specific bike.
I believe Steve is so far out in the lead, with regards to the concours 14, that no one else even comes close.
Steves already helped my riding situation. I rat-holed the reflash money, and swore Id send mine in as soon as the snow made riding impossible. Of course, that snow never really happened, and I was able to ride in each and every month, last year.
That would have never happened if I was not looking forward to downtime, and sending my ecu to him.
UI have that fuel moto map, and butterflies removed. A vast improvement, over stock, but the low end response is not right.
I cant really describe "not right" but my ninja 1000 has had a reflash, and i want my 14 to respond like it does.
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Woolich doesn't flash any bikes, they sell components to be able to flash, as well as several other companies. This is so you can build you own flash if you want. It's a great idea, except that tuning on any engine requires a pretty solid knowledge base on what you're doing. When you hear the warnings about being able to smoke an engine pretty quick, well think about how many engines get grenaded at the racetrack because the tuner pushed the limits looking for the last bit of power.
As far as RCannon's post, well he's absolutely right, not all flashes are the same, and you'll get the best work from someone who specializes and deeply cares about a given model or 2. There's a fellow who tunes vmax's, and that's all he does. His tunes are head and shoulders above all others. Everyone I've talked to said "he is the man" on that model. so for me to consider tuning a vmax would be ludicrous.
Along those same lines, I know of a couple other concours tunes. One is laughably cheap, and they list at least 20 different exhaust systems the tune will work with. The only problem is none of those exhausts are even built for a zg1400. So do you really think there was any effort to even learn about the concours, or what the riders want, from that company? They didn't even do due diligence in knowing what exhausts are available, yet they claim their tune works with it. What a freakin' joke, and the joke is on the poor schmuck who falls for the idea that all flashes are the same.
When I set out with this project, i knew I had to eclipse any work done by other tuners. IF you know me, you know the one thing I have is pride in my workmanship - so I can look you in the eye when I do work for you and you know you got my best effort. Couple that, my history with the Concours and it's owners (of which I have been for 12 years) and you start to see why I put in the effort I did. I'm not trying to make an advertisement here, but this is simply my reality. I wouldn't be able to build the best gsxr1000 tune, or the best zx14 tune; I don't ride those bikes, and some very talented tuners do. I ride a Concours... just like you. So figure from there if all tunes are the same. Steve
Steve
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Hi steve i agree with u that y i want u to flash my ecu but the pro is its take about 3 to 4 weeks theni get the ecu backs that means i have to ground my c14 right ? Ok can u give me your add then i can check with dhl or ups how much i have to pay for sending to u .just ask if u got another way to shorten the week to send me back the ecu
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If u have any xtra of the ecu that cn u sell to me plus n flash to my c14, the stocks ecu i will keep for standby 😁
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"sor e bt it dosnt wrk that wa u wll hv 2 suppi ure own ecu"
I trust your Malay is impeccable before venturing a post in such poor taste. smh
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Ok can u give the address to me then i check dhl n ups how long will it takes to send to steve 😁
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Ok can u give the address to me then i check dhl n ups how long will it takes to send to steve 😁
http://sites.google.com/site/shoodabenengineering/home (http://sites.google.com/site/shoodabenengineering/home)
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"sor e bt it dosnt wrk that wa u wll hv 2 suppi ure own ecu"
I trust your Malay is impeccable before venturing a post in such poor taste. smh
Sanmo, you have to forgive max', he doesn't get out much. He sits at home watching TV when he should be bleeding his brakes. The guilt builds up inside of him
until he lashes out with these little snipes of his to relieve the pressure build up.
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I trust your Malay is impeccable before venturing a post in such poor taste. smh
What was posted was apparetly text message jargon :) y for "why", u for "you", xtra for "extra", n for "in"... seemed deliberate to me. I would never pick on someone's English, especially when non-native. It was meant to be a funny reply back also in text message jargon. And what I said was valid- it doesn't work that way, one would have to ship one's own ECU in for flashing.
Bai65, it if wasn't funny, I apologize (deleting it too).
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What was posted was apparently text message jargon :) y for "why", u for "you", xtra for "extra", n for "in"... seemed deliberate to me.
You actually know that stuff (txt jargon)? I'm impressed.
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You actually know that stuff (txt jargon)? I'm impressed.
I like investigating foreign languages
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I like investigating foreign languages
Sometimes things gets lost in translation though...... and more often that not, it is problematic.
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Sometimes things gets lost in translation though...... and more often that not, it is problematic.
Here is a fun tool for those times:
http://transl8it.com/ (http://transl8it.com/)
"now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country"
"nw iz d tym 4 aL gud men 2 cum 2 d aid of thR cuntrE"
Viola! Saved a whopping 12 characters while simultaneously being elite and super-cool cryptic!
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<...while simultaneously being elite and super-cool cryptic!...>
"yrtunoc rieht fo pia eht ot emoc ot uem poog lla rof emit eht si wou"
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"yrtunoc rieht fo pia eht ot emoc ot uem poog lla rof emit eht si wou"
You made some typos there.... :)
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best I could do typing looking in the mirror... ::)
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No probleam it just word i dont take it seriosly if u all not understand my english let me now i xplain in malay 😁i not so good in english because my school only teaching ni malay ya just forget it .about the flash ----if i flash the ecu n used the stock pipe its ok ? 2) if later after the flash n i change the aftermarket pipe should i reflasf again? And which pipe is good for c14 zg1400 2016?
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about the flash ----if i flash the ecu n used the stock pipe its ok ? 2) if later after the flash n i change the aftermarket pipe should i reflasf again?
Your choice of muffler barely affects flow/pressure, so it doesn't matter. Pick any you like and it should work the same. The only significant reason to change just the muffler is cosmetic/noise.
And which pipe is good for c14 zg1400 2016?
The one that comes with it works great. :)
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Ok thank u for info, n how long do u all send tn get back the ecu from steve if 2 weeks should i disconneted the bet3 from the c14? 😁
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Ok thank u for info, n how long do u all send tn get back the ecu from steve
That depends entirely on transit time (the carrier and options chosen for shipping). I doubt Steve takes long on his part; I believe the actual flashing of an ECU takes only a few minutes.
if 2 weeks should i disconneted the bet3 from the c14? 😁
What is a "bet3"... a battery? If yes, then I do recommend disconnecting the battery before removal or installation of the ECU. Although others have said they didn't bother and had no problems, I like to be extra safe :)
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I believe that Steve's recommendation is to not disconnect the battery. I did for mine and had a bit of an issue. Don't remember what it was or how long it lasted. It did clear itself out, though.
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Thanks for info be4 steve flash the ecu did he back up the stock bin files? Me b i will sending my ecu on monday .i am worroy about my ecu without it c14 cannot start .i concent because i stay in singapore n i send the ecu at usa will it come back safely😁😁😁
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IF the flash it good me b i will ask my friend who ride the C14 gtr to send to steve for flash the ecu 🤗
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Your FEAM (Fuel Economy Assist Mode) map will be unchanged (for gen 2), so you can switch to that anytime. No other "backup" is going to be useful/helpful. Yep, I would be worried too about shipping my ECU so far, but it will be worth the risk :)
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Its possible if steve let us know what he write in the ecu then we do it ourself and we pay for the infor that steve share to us 😁😁 what u thing ? This just wandering
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What was posted was apparetly text message jargon :) y for "why", u for "you", xtra for "extra", n for "in"... seemed deliberate to me. I would never pick on someone's English, especially when non-native. It was meant to be a funny reply back also in text message jargon. And what I said was valid- it doesn't work that way, one would have to ship one's own ECU in for flashing.
Bai65, it if wasn't funny, I apologize (deleting it too).
My bad, perhaps. Thought you were mocking the OP. I can see how his writings sorta resemble texting jargon. ;D
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Well, here's the twist I have been waiting for, I knew this day was coming. After many emails, I received this email from the OP
Hi steve its possible u share wat u doing with the ecu then we flash it and we pay u for info"
This is someone in singapore (or wherever) attempt to steal the flash and sell it over there.
I told him I'm not selling him a flash, and to not contact me again.
Steve
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Hi steve y u say i stealing your flash? U know meaning steal n ask n pay? That just an idea only .i just try to save time n cost only and no intent to steal people hard work.but if u think i stealing your flash its not cool 👈.if u dont want to sell your flash it ok thats is yours . Sori for misunderstood😌
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I've never been to Malaysia, or Singapore, or Manila....
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:thumbs: That brought a smile to my face. I love that movie.
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I could chalk it up to a misunderstanding borne of communication, BUT he posted some pretty insightful info a couple posts before my last. This dude knows exactly what's going on here, so all I have to say is "not today".
Steve
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I could chalk it up to a misunderstanding borne of communication, BUT he posted some pretty insightful info a couple posts before my last. This dude knows exactly what's going on here, so all I have to say is "not today".
Steve
Special Kindabeen-Almostbeen-SHouldabeen Singapore Special Flash available here: http://guhlmotors.com/kawasaki-reflash.html (http://guhlmotors.com/kawasaki-reflash.html) :stirpot:
...or maybe...
Its possible if steve let us know what he write in the ecu then we do it ourself and we pay for the infor that steve share to us what u thing ? This just wandering
Perhaps there is a price that you would sell the info? (Steve, think: "I could retire." price. $$$.$$$.00 ) 8)
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I've never been to Malaysia, or Singapore, or Manila....
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I love his facial expressions and how he didn't rush the end line. ;D :thumbs: :goodpost:
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I could chalk it up to a misunderstanding borne of communication, BUT he posted some pretty insightful info a couple posts before my last. This dude knows exactly what's going on here, so all I have to say is "not today".
Steve
I for the life of me cannot understand why you would be upset that someone wants to buy a flash for $350 in order to steal your hours and hours of work and testing, to resell it as his own; making thousands and thousands of dollars with zero work.---lol! :P
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Hi I never on my mind to steal someone hard work n sell to gain profit .i just want to buy it for myself to use n if u read the few pos that i will recomand to steve all my friend who ride the c14 to flash thier ecu .last fridy i have taken out my ecu from the bike n wanted to send on monday but now i have to put it back because misunderstand .In singapore there is no one flash the ecu .i have ask around but noboday do it .i join this forum just to make friends n not animes.steve i apologize for wat i say 😊
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Bai65, your intentions may have been honorable but there is too much IP piracy going on in that part of the world for alarm bells not to go off when you make a suggestion about getting the code. On the other hand, if you had been a Nigerian prince you would be getting the code and all our bank account numbers too..... :)
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Steve wouldn't sell it here either. He's spent too much time and effort into getting this code operational.
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You are stating the obvious. Let me top you by declaring that Steve probably would not sell it to Pope Francis or the Dalai Lama. Nor should he. ;D
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and to top it off, I have these crazy spidey senses from working in prisons for years as a younger man. wow, that never goes away. I don't regret that experience for a second, but yes, I've seen the worst side of man. One thing I've learned from that is to trust my gut. Worse case scenario here? I don't make money on a couple flashes. A small price to pay. Interestingly I did a little research, and Singapore is considered one of the absolute top countries for technology and technological development. Steve
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Steve, I know what you mean. It is sad, but I am a very non-trusting person, too. I am not sure how it started, but I am wary of everything being a scam out there.
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You are stating the obvious. Let me top you by declaring that Steve probably would not sell it to Pope Francis or the Dalai Lama. Nor should he. ;D
Just because something is obvious on this forum, it doesn't preclude stating it again and again and again. ;)
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Just because something is obvious on this forum, it doesn't preclude stating it again and again and again. ;)
The sky is blue
The sky is blue
The sky is blue
The sky is blue
The sky is blue
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Unless it's cloudy with a chance of meatballs.
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The sky is blue
The sky is blue
The sky is blue
The sky is blue
The sky is blue
Actually the sky is black. We only see blue because of the refraction of the blue wavelength of light off our atmosphere. :P
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Actually the sky is black. We only see blue because of the refraction of the blue wavelength of light off our atmosphere. :P
Do you realize I was just waiting (and hoping) someone would say that...
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YUP! lol! :)
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Bai65, your intentions may have been honorable but there is too much IP piracy going on in that part of the world for alarm bells not to go off when you make a suggestion about getting the code. On the other hand, if you had been a Nigerian prince you would be getting the code and all our bank account numbers too..... :)
My Special benefactor is a Princess from Angola. All I had to do was send her my name/address, SSN, House Deed, All of my vehicle titles, bank account information, credit card account numbers & PIN's, $30,000 in cash, and the first and last names (plus addresses and phone numbers) of all my relatives who were interested in an "Income Opportunity". Simple. I can't wait for all of that money to start rolling in. Funny thing tho, it's been months and I haven't heard a thing from her since I got evicted and had to live on the street. What?
Totally blew up this thread... I'm Sorry. But I'm gonna be sooooo wealthy, and not have to lift a finger. :nuts:
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Dont be proud what u have, the bike ,money ,house,car ,n what ever r u good in, everything will not bring to the grave , only u bring is your body n the cofin that it .if he dont want to do it then find i would not be angry .if i a king wat for i buy the flash better i buy all the raceing team 😁
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No point worrying about the afterlife. Till such time as my body is in a coffin, I fully expect to enjoy and be proud of all my doodads and geegaws. ;D
bai65, to satisfy my twin curiosity about Singapore and farkling customs there, perhaps you can post pics of your C14 at some famous Singapore landmarks?
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:) :popcorn:
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:) :popcorn:
Shhh..... ;)
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I agree.... :popcorn:
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You guys.....