They've gone up quite a bit since I bought one back in 04. I had one my bike for about 3 years. I think rain finally killed it, despite my waterproofing efforts, didnt use it all that much except during night riding. I tend to agree with what other posters said "the deer tended to alert and go the other way". I witnerssed that one night about 2AM in the middle of the Nevavda desert. For casual riding I probably wont bother with getting another, however if I do start doing more IronButt stuff I just might...