Dealership recommended to wait on valve adj check

[Afm252]

Went to the dealership to get quote for the 15,000 yesterday. Service manager said I Was "crazy" to consider checking valve intervals at that time, unless I wanted to simply part with $800. Said he was going to push his personal C14 out to at least 25,000. First time I have had this level of "honesty" from a service team at a dealership. Makes me wonder.

[Pokey]

Yeah I wouldnt worry about it until then either.....matter of fact that is exactly what I am doing.

[Kawi Ken]

How would this affect any future warranty work on engine tho if needed ? Just curious.

[gPink]

It would be arguable since the euro-spec bikes are identical with extended mileage for valve adjustment.

[IRULE]

People at dealerships are not d-bag.  Some are really cool. I'm at 21k and also will wait til 25k+. 

[rcannon409]

If you study warranty laws here in the USA, the only way a warranty can be voided for skipping the 15,000 mile check is if that 15k service was free.   They cannot violate your warranty if you do the work, or the work is never done. Its covered in the Magnuson-Moss act under "tie-in"

There are guides everywhere talking about our rights, but this one is semi-decent.  http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides/ftc/warranties/undermag.htm

[Necron99]

I did mine at 15k and the bike ran better.  I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

[wally_games]

I did mine at 15k and the bike ran better.  I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

The placebo effect, LOL.

[IRULE]

I did mine at 15k and the bike ran better.  I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

It's all in your head....

[Jeremy Mitchell]

The placebo effect, LOL.

Nothing makes me feel better than a $700 sugar pill.   

[thomasag]

I did mine at approximately 15,000 miles and 13 of the 16 valves were under the minimum tolerance limit.  I'm glad that I did it.  If you're a gambler.....

[maxtog]

If you study warranty laws here in the USA, the only way a warranty can be voided for skipping the 15,000 mile check is if that 15k service was free.   They cannot violate your warranty if you do the work, or the work is never done. Its covered in the Magnuson-Moss act under "tie-in"

I think they CAN void parts of the warranty for non-service, but only if they can prove that the non-service *caused* the problem.  Of course, the burden is on them, and something like that is probably very difficult to prove.  That is my understanding, anyway.

[lt1]

You might want to fix the thread title.

Those of us who have done our own valves seem to find more out-of-spec than dealers.  I don't have my chart in front of me, but I recall having to buy 4-5 shims even after swapping things around.  OTOH, I am extending my 2nd valve adjustment interval to 25k.  You do what you want with your own bike, but I would not (and did not) extend the 1st one.

[Pokey]

Wonder just how many cars are technically out of spec and continue to run perfectly fine for many miles, with zero issues?

[lt1]

Wonder just how many cars are technically out of spec and continue to run perfectly fine for many miles, with zero issues?

Seventeen.  Don't push your luck.

[jjsC6]

If you study warranty laws here in the USA, the only way a warranty can be voided for skipping the 15,000 mile check is if that 15k service was free.   They cannot violate your warranty if you do the work, or the work is never done. Its covered in the Magnuson-Moss act under "tie-in"

There are guides everywhere talking about our rights, but this one is semi-decent.  http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides/ftc/warranties/undermag.htm

I do not believe that is true.  What I believe is that legally they cannot deny warranty coverage unless it is determined that the lack of service led to the failure.

BTW, I had two different dealers tell me there was no need to have mine checked until at least 25,000 miles.  I had them checked at 29,000 miles and none needed adjustment.

[rcannon409]

JJsc6, if you do a search on the Magnuson-Moss act, you'll see that it is true.  Its not something I would have invented for purposes of this thread.

The only way Kawi can REQUIRE  the service for warranty is to do the service for free, or have applied for a waiver with the FTC.  The waiver woudl have to state the service was required for the motorcycle to work properly. If they did nto do this, they cannot require us to pay for the service to keep the warranty in force.

[Afm252]

This is why I love the forum...plenty of great opinions. Bottom line is whatever it takes to keep riding is what matters, at minimum cost of course.

[VirginiaJim]

Nothing makes me feel better than a $700 sugar pill.   

Excellent!  Pill is on the way and I take Paypal.

[gonzosc1]

Nothing makes me feel better than a $700 sugar pill.   

could be maybe, but an intake sync can do wonders if it out of spec